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volksjager (volksjager) wrote in scans_daily,
@ 2009-10-08 09:39:00

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Konkrite : "It's like Paris without the french"

Achtung! Luftwaffe vor !

Luftwaffe 1946 Ted Nomura's alternate WW2 masterpiece !

As alternate histories go, look no further. This painstakingly research story about a ww2 that happens differently. The biggest change? Hermann Göring dies in WW1 and VonRitter is in charge of the Luftwaffe, so jets are widely available by 1943,and the long range bomber project is not canceled. Ted Nomaura is a huge fan of the German X-planes. The war still ends with an Allies victory it just lasts til Aug. 1946.

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	cmdr_zoom 2009-10-08 02:31 pm UTC (link)
	The eternal conundrum of the WW2 buff: The bad guys had all the cool stuff. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	volksjager 2009-10-08 02:37 pm UTC (link)
	Truly... (Reply to this) (Parent)

	volksjager 2009-10-08 02:42 pm UTC (link)
	If your any sort of fan the technical manuals Antarctic press came out with for the series are just to die for with drawings,specs and other information. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	daningram 2009-10-08 03:13 pm UTC (link)
	They had the coolest rides, but we had the coolest bomb ;) (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	aaron_bourque 2009-10-08 07:06 pm UTC (link)
	Hottest bomb, surely. Well, bombs. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	henker 2009-10-08 05:25 pm UTC (link)
	Everyone knows the bad guys always have the cooler stuff. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	arilou_skiff 2009-10-08 06:01 pm UTC (link)
	Fortunately, coolness doesen't win wars. Reliability, price and ability to produce a metric fuckton of them does. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	volksjager 2009-10-08 09:59 pm UTC (link)
	"coolness" worked for Alexander... (Reply to this) (Parent)

	icon_uk 2009-10-08 09:04 pm UTC (link)
	"The Devil has all the best music, but Heaven has all the best choreographers." ("Good Omens" - Pratchett and Gaiman) (Reply to this) (Parent)

	ulf_boehnke 2009-10-08 02:41 pm UTC (link)
	next to last scan: Luftwaffles XD last scan: Sturmvögels The other eternal conundrum of WW2 stories: Get a translator for a handful of words or sound ridiculous to the handful of readers who understand German. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	volksjager 2009-10-08 02:43 pm UTC (link)
	What is wrong with Strumvogels ? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	ian_karkull 2009-10-08 03:33 pm UTC (link)
	Well for one thing, Sturmvögel already is the plural form, the s is redundant and makes it sound odd. Also, I'm not an expert on military history but "Sturmvögel" is... kind of a stupid name. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	volksjager 2009-10-08 04:19 pm UTC (link)
	It had an 88 mm gun on the nose, one hit and it would end you. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	ian_karkull 2009-10-08 04:25 pm UTC (link)
	Then I guess my last words would be a Nelson-style Haw haw!. One could do worse. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	volksjager 2009-10-08 07:12 pm UTC (link)
	If an Me262 saw you first you wouldn't even get that off. ;P (Reply to this) (Parent)

	ulf_boehnke 2009-10-08 03:42 pm UTC (link)
	Sturmvögel is already the plural of Sturmvogel. Sturmvögels could be translated as Stormbirdses. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	volksjager 2009-10-08 04:18 pm UTC (link)
	That's because it is the squadron Ident. :) (Reply to this) (Parent)

	aaron_bourque 2009-10-08 07:09 pm UTC (link)
	I'd fly it. Aaron "The Mad Whitaker" Bourque; of course, I'm the kind of guy who gets excited about playing a D&D paladin because of the HORSEY! HORSEY HORSEY HORSEY HORSEY HORSEY HORSEY HORSEY! (Reply to this) (Parent)

	volksjager 2009-10-08 10:25 pm UTC (link)
	"Luftwaffles" is the cutesy name for the comics strip. "Lil' Dora" explain the piece of military equipment that was featured in each story. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	ulf_boehnke 2009-10-08 11:00 pm UTC (link)
	I can believe that. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	Interesting.... proteus_lives 2009-10-08 08:09 pm UTC (link)
	I like the tech manual aspect of it. Quick question, is the story pro-Nazi and Imperial Japan? (Reply to this) (Thread)

	Re: Interesting.... volksjager 2009-10-08 08:22 pm UTC (link)
	What do you mean by "pro"? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: Interesting.... icon_uk 2009-10-08 09:07 pm UTC (link)
	I assume they mean in the sense of "Is the story presented as being sympathetic to the aims and ends of the Axis forces, such as ethnic extermination on the part of the Nazi's" (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

Re: Interesting....

volksjager
2009-10-08 09:57 pm UTC (link)

No, The Allies still win the war,it just lasts another 14 months and the Germans have the time to bring out the X-planes and such. Ted Nomura's grandfather was in the war. The inside cover of each issue was an editorial he wrote. One of them was about the time (at age 15) he confronted his grandfather about his part in the war. "Did you see any atrocities or comitts them ?" he asked. His Grandfather would not talk about it. The war is examined from many angles and POVs. Yes he does have the Japanese manga love for girls in miniskirt uniforms up to shenanigans, but this is also a serious work making up 8 different versions of "Family of altered wars".

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	Re: Interesting.... proteus_lives 2009-10-08 11:39 pm UTC (link)
	Thanks for the answer. I was wondering if they delved into the politics of the war or if it was just battles/tech. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: Interesting.... volksjager 2009-10-08 11:49 pm UTC (link)
	Yes, lots of politics. There is one issue about a veteran who is black recounting his war experience in the battle or Layette gulf. His Sgt. was a southern racist but the two had to work together to stay alive. The Book reboots like 3 times (sort of like Gundam-Wing) and every tangent that is worth it gets arrested. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	psychop_rex 2009-10-09 09:05 am UTC (link)
	Hrrm. So this is basically your average 'alternate history' thing without the sci-fi aspects that tend to pop up? (Reply to this) (Thread)

	volksjager 2009-10-09 01:48 pm UTC (link)
	"without the sci-fi aspects that tend to pop up" What do you mean by this ? :) (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	psychop_rex 2009-10-09 09:34 pm UTC (link)
	Well, like - aliens? Death rays, that sort of thing? That frequently seems to pop up in a lot of alternate history stuff I've read - it's waaaaaaay alternate. (I would particularly recommend the 'Worldwar' series by Harry Turtledove - Earth gets invaded in the middle of WW2. Cool stuff.) (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

volksjager
2009-10-09 09:53 pm UTC (link)

There is a small bit of Aliens (called Thules) in one book. The author tho' tries to keep all the x-planes and tech. to thing the Germans and other powers had on the drawing board,but just didn't have time develop. This is why they war just lasts a year and a half longer,but the Allies still win. One ending (of the three different ones) has Hannah Reich fly the Sanger orbital bomber (which was real)into orbit, it misfires and she ends up leaving earth and flies towards the moon. The Germans did have a death ray program called "project Odin bolt". It is in one the tech. manuals ;)

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	psychop_rex 2009-10-09 11:40 pm UTC (link)
	Thules, eh? As in the 'Thule Society' that Hitler had? Any chance of posting that bit? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	volksjager 2009-10-09 11:48 pm UTC (link)
	Hmmm, will have to see if I can find it. That is from the original series "The tigers of terra". (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	psychop_rex 2009-10-09 11:54 pm UTC (link)
	Well, if you can find it, I'd be interested. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	volksjager 2009-10-10 12:12 am UTC (link)
	Hmmp, what interests you most ? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	psychop_rex 2009-10-10 12:15 am UTC (link)
	...that's a loaded question... I take it you're referring to this series, as opposed to in general. Er... aliens are always nice... (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	volksjager 2009-10-10 01:16 am UTC (link)
	well, either or. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	psychop_rex 2009-10-10 02:03 am UTC (link)
	Man, I'd be typing all day. I have very varied interests that shift back and forth in degree. My real problem is finding just ONE thing I'm interested in and sticking with it. (Reply to this) (Parent)