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Tweak says, "Stand your ground"

The Best Revenge is Living Well. (misterfedex) wrote in scans_daily,
@ 2009-09-25 12:01:00

Current mood:	amused
Entry tags:	char: the shade/richard swift, creator: james robinson, publisher: dc comics

Not a scan but...
I'm a Twitter-er, Twittee? Twit?

Either way, I found an interesting stream of discussion from James Robinson, located Here
in regards to Alan Moore and his recent rants. It should also chime in nicely to a debate or talk that members here had.

Please adjust this post if needed, I'm chiming in from work and won't be able to see it until later.

Thanks and happy talking!

Changed up. So fer legality reasons...

I'd forgotten the issue this scene was from. Man, how terrible of a scans_poster am I then? :D But its a nice snapshot of Shade/Bobo Bennetti and takes place in context to...oh hell, you'd see. Anyone can help out with which one this was? Starman needs much more love on this board.

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	icon_uk 2009-09-25 07:05 pm UTC (link)
	The link doesn't work, and a scan really IS required before posting. You might try noscans_daily (Reply to this) (Thread)

	misterfedex 2009-09-25 07:09 pm UTC (link)
	Well shuckaduck. I'll bump this off. Take the link and run with it from here if you'd like http://twitter.com/jamesdrobinson. I'll go through and delete it shortly (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	icon_uk 2009-09-25 07:45 pm UTC (link)
	Cheers, that's working now... though I confess I'm showing my age if I were to say I find Twitter kind of annoying as a communications medium. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	misterfedex 2009-09-25 07:50 pm UTC (link)
	I think the scan is up and working now. I'd hope so, since I adore this series. And this whole snark board too. So, thoughts? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	icon_uk 2009-09-25 08:07 pm UTC (link)
	Yup, that's working there! :) Will comment on the rest of it later. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	misterfedex 2009-09-25 07:52 pm UTC (link)
	Twitter is blogging for the attention deficit. Which is silly in its own right to say, but...who are we to argue with a billion dollar investment now? The times they are a changin' you know? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	icon_uk 2009-09-25 08:06 pm UTC (link)
	Oh I know they're a changing, I was there when Internet ran on bits of string stretched between baked bean cans after all. It just seems such an automatically limiting form of communication, unless you have a mastery of précis or love haiku, and most tweets I've read... don't. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	blakeyrat 2009-09-26 03:10 am UTC (link)
	Billion dollar investment, maybe, but where's the payback? Until Twitter figures out how to pull in the green stuff, they're pretty useless to the world-at-large. Right now, they're barely covering their hosting bills, much less staffing. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	schmevil 2009-09-26 12:01 am UTC (link)
	I'm finding it much less annoying than Facebook. (Reply to this) (Parent)

angelophile
2009-09-25 08:22 pm UTC (link)

For those who don't want to trawl through Twitter, the quote goes thus:

"I was thinking about Alan Moore's remarks about Blackest Night. And albeit this is me, here, the guy who made such a mess of LOEG but --

He's basically saying that comics are dead because they dare to draw from past continuity, which is actually I believe one of the appeals of comics to some degree. Comics are a medium that has since the 60s at least built stories on the stories that have gone before.

As to the subject of originality, let's not forget that while the stories Moore has told were incredible and Watchmen may well be a work of genius, with the exception of Big Numbers which was never finished, everything of note he's written was the reinterpretation of someone else's work. Marvelman, Swamp Thing, Watchmen (Charlton heroes) even From Hell (although he denies it) borrows greatly from Jack the Ripper: The Final Solution by Stephen Knight which was very much the read du jour back in the day. And let's not forget that Watchman, as brilliant as it was, had an ending taken from an episode of the Outer Limits. I know this sounds mean, but all I'm saying is that comics are a medium where one creator feeds off the work of others. That's the nature of the beast (I guess I should amend that to say superhero comics).

I love reading Moore's work, but I find a sliver of hypocrisy in him taking such holier than though view of things. But then as talented as he is, if he has a flaw it, it's that he's always taken himself too seriously.

Oh and while I list the major works of Moore that wouldn't exist without the prior work of others how could I forget Lost Girls and LOEG?

Now him being a warlock and all he's probably going to send a homunculus to get me. It's taken me this long to train the one I have to do the dishes. I don't know if I have the patience to go through that all over again. And my apartment building has a rule about too many pets.

All I'm saying is that with so much of his body of work derived from the creativity of other writers, wonderful/genius though Moore's work may be, he is nevertheless in a glass house throwing stones."

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	ashtoreth 2009-09-25 09:10 pm UTC (link)
	Thanks. I hate Twitter with a passion. JR says it well, but this has all been said before. It's starting to make me feel sorry for Moore. When did JR make a mess of League of Extraordinary Gentlemen? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	icon_uk 2009-09-25 09:15 pm UTC (link)
	James Robinson wrote the screenplay for the movie. Which I have to say I enjoyed mightily. It wasn't the comic book, but was quite a lot of fun anyway. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	halloweenjack 2009-09-27 09:26 pm UTC (link)
	Funny how he leaves out V for Vendetta in his little list, there. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	btravage.livejournal.com 2009-09-25 09:38 pm UTC (link)
	Who's this Mr. Bennetti guy? Clock King? Time Commander? (Reply to this) (Thread)

	ninjapeps 2009-09-25 11:19 pm UTC (link)
	Bobo Bennetti. don't know if he's an old character or if Robinson created him for the Starman series he wrote years ago. been a while since I read Starman but from what I remember, he was a bank robber who became one of Opal City's protectors after he got paroled. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	misterfedex 2009-09-25 11:27 pm UTC (link)
	Benetti's an original character from "Starman" as the poster after you replied. I always tend to read him with James Gandolphini's (sp?) voice. And Shade as Clive Owen, but then again, I'm an RPGer...this happens. (Reply to this) (Parent)

idreading
2009-09-25 11:02 pm UTC (link)

Huh. This guy's twitter comments make me think he's not a very good comics writer. Comics is a medium where--

--you have to learn how to edit yourself and compress sentences. This is because comic speech is--

--conveyed through thought bubbles, which take up space on the page. There's a limit to how much text--

--you can put in a panel before it becomes unwieldy, and I just think that anyone who doesn't know--

--how to use Twitter properly probably doesn't know how to write speech for comics either.

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	xlineartx 2009-09-25 11:11 pm UTC (link)
	James Robinson has done some really good stuff, as wordy as he is. Some of his best stuff, in fact, is on the wordier side of things. As for his bad stuff, wordiness is the least of his problems. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	misterfedex 2009-09-25 11:28 pm UTC (link)
	Again, I'm going to refer you to "Starman Vol:2" Either the Omnibus, or do like I did, and hunt down every back issue in a city. Its more than worth the read. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	autumn_lily 2009-09-26 02:19 am UTC (link)
	This scene comes from Starman Vol.2 #46 "Times Past: 1953" I think, but I could be wrong. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	misterfedex 2009-09-26 06:42 am UTC (link)
	Hey, that is the best explanation I've gotten so far. So until proven wrong? It STICKS. (Reply to this) (Parent)