Re: [WHY ARE WE HERE]
[From somewhere behind Mitsuru, so deep into the shadows you might have missed it.. a cat speaks up.]
Hypothetically, all things related to the Judge killed fades or dies. After hearing about Surgeon I've yet to find a single spider or anything relating to his patronage and as far as Ophiuchus records go, neither he nor Trickster existed.
If you kill a Judge, their influence and everything related to it goes as well. I've heard that from another Judge.