"Well, if you ever do want to talk about it, I'm told I'm pretty good at listening," Carmel said with a gentle smile. She'd worked with women's self defense groups before her rape, and even tagentially with a few rape survivor groups; afterwards, she'd been been a part of them from the other side.
"I think I do, yes," she said with another smile. "I'm not completely put togehter, but I'm better than some. So I'm happy to be a good example," she said.