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Savannah Monroe ([info]savannah_monroe) wrote in [info]omega_reality,
@ 2013-03-17 11:48:00

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Entry tags:*complete, 2013 03, character: marty deeks, character: savannah monroe

Savannah and Marty
Who: Savannah, Marty
Where: Their room
When: Sunday, March 17, 2013
Summary: Marty wants to talk again, Savannah not so much.

Living in their house was the epitome of politeness. Oliver was polite, Tommy was polite, Savannah was polite, and Marty... well, Savannah was trying to put as much space between her and her husband at his point. It wasn't difficult with the times they kept. During lunch, there was always something that popped up and that Marty needed to take care of, and she had to worry about the twins. At home, they still had to cook, eat, clean up, all done very politely with the other two men in the house.

The weekends were a little tricker, because there was no set schedule, but there were still chores, shopping, church, and Sunday dinner. She even managed to get a little nap on Saturday, but no so much on Sunday. However, by the time they were done with everything, she was ready to pass out. As soon as the twins were asleep, she got in bed, looking forward to ten hours of sleep. What she didn't expect was Marty coming in this early. She really should be quiet, because she knew that talking got her into trouble, but it was just not her. If there was silence, she needed to fill it. "Is something wrong?" It wouldn't be shocking considering all the new people that were part of this team.



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[info]deeks_marty
2013-03-18 12:47 am UTC (link)
Marty was definitely giving G and Derek their job back when they found them. He'd felt at times in the past couple months like he had no time with his family. But, in the last week or so, as Savannah grew cooler and cooler, that distance from his family felt all the sharper. He knew something was wrong, whether she'd wanted to admit it during their recent argument or not. The past two years had been spent learning to interpret the different smiles she wore from true happiness to polite disdain. More importantly, silence out of Savannah was a pretty deadly warning signal.

"I think there is," he answered her, moving to sit on the edge of the bed next to her. "I also know that letting you keep on in silence is never the answer. So, talk to me, Savannah. Tell me about what's been bothering you...and I don't just mean the last week or so since we argued about Dr. Isles." He still believed the issues with the doctor were a symptom, not the real problem.

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[info]savannah_monroe
2013-03-18 01:05 am UTC (link)
"Are you starting with that again?" she said, shaking her head. "I thought this was about work and you needed help." She could deal with work. She could deal with training, going out, and pretty much anything else that they threw her way. She wasn't sure she could deal with this.

"Do you know how much I argued with G about taking any psychology classes? A lot, and this is the reason. You believe something based on the fact that I don't like to talk to some people and aren't happy when I say I'm good. You must be a much better person if you never dislike anyone." She sat up slowly, making sure not to wake up the girls. "Nothing was bothering me before. Things might have changed. It's not really a problem, more like confusion, since I'm not exactly sure if she's going to deliver the baby and since we decided not to talk to each other, it might be a little difficult to figure out, but I can ask Troy or Alexis. April taught both of them, and there's always Sean. If he's anything like Sam, I'd rather have him around anyway. Although we probably shouldn't talk about this since she doesn't want me to talk about her. I'm sure you know about that, anyway. Are we done now?"

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[info]deeks_marty
2013-03-19 09:18 pm UTC (link)
Marty sighed, but he'd half expected this kind of reaction. "Yes, I am starting this again," he replied mildly. "I occasionally prefer to talk about something other than work, or perhaps be the one giving help instead of needing it. But this isn't psychology, Savannah. This is being able to recognize when my wife is freezing me out, despite her polite smiles and helpfulness at work."

The rest of what she said only made partial sense, though. "No, we're not done. How was I supposed to know any of this? And what do you mean you don't know if she's delivering the baby? She's the doctor; why wouldn't she be delivering the baby?"

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[info]savannah_monroe
2013-03-19 09:33 pm UTC (link)
"You're in charge and I'm staying home. Why would I need help?" she asked, because that made no sense. "And as you pointed out last time we talked, everything is work here, but fine, we're not talking about work. We're talking about some idea you have that I don't like people because I miss G and I'm telling you that you're wrong."

Savannah shrugged. "I don't know what's going on with y'all, so I don't know if you'd heard or not." Then again, she didn't think she was wrong that they considered lesser beings so they would only talk to Marty if it benefited them and this didn't. "Well, I'm not really sure how to explain. I told her that I wasn't going to see her for the weekly visits. She started about me handling her, patronizing her and questioning her pedigree. Let's just say that her assumptions rivaled yours. Actually no, she won without question. She mentioned that she shouldn't be my doctor because I don't trust her. I mentioned that how was I supposed to trust her when I can't even understand what she's telling me. She said that I could always ask her to explain. I was pretty sarcastic at that one, because it seems to go over her head that as the doctor it's her job to make herself understood. She answered that we don't have to talk, to which I agreed. So it started with me not seeing her for regular check-ups and now I'm not sure if she's delivering the baby," she said with a shrug. "There's other people. It's going to be fine."

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[info]deeks_marty
2013-03-19 10:12 pm UTC (link)
"Why wouldn't you?" Marty returned. "If that's what's bothering you, then yes, that's what we're talking about. But, I asked what was bothering you other than this, unless this is the reason you've been avoiding me for more than a week?"

She didn't know what was going on, but she assumed. Marty took a deep breath...and another one after listening to her begin. She had refused to talk to her doctor about the doctor's concerns, refused to continue weekly visits, and now they didn't have a doctor to deliver the baby. This was pretty much the last thing Marty needed on top of everything else. And he didn't even know where to begin with her retelling of the conversation. He stuck with the practical things that had actual solutions. "Okay, so it's probably safe to assume she's not going to handle the delivery. So, we should look at options now, just in case. You mentioned Troy, Alexis, and Sean. What about Robert? Not that I don't like or trust the others, but Robert's a lot more level headed under pressure than any of those three."

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[info]savannah_monroe
2013-03-19 10:52 pm UTC (link)
"What kind of help would I need when we don't do anything that's not regulated and I'm not going anywhere?" That truly confused her, even if the rest didn't. "I'm not avoiding you. We do everything together, and that makes it pretty much impossible to avoid it." She might not have really talked to him, but she hadn't avoided him. Then again, she knew that he didn't mean literally. It was one of those things she had learned from him in two years.

"I have no idea what it's safe to assume, since people keep making the wrong assumptions," she answered. "I mentioned Troy and Alexis, because April taught them what to expect and possible complications, but other than that? I'm not really worrying too much about it. It's not like we probably couldn't do this at home without any help, and if you're out, then chances are that both Robert and Troy will be out too, which cuts down on that list. The problem is that 'just in case' doesn't really work, because if you are here, then there's no problem, and if you aren't here, then I have no clue who'd be around. John can pretty much deal with any emergency. Derek. Heck, even Nell or Leon, he was there for his children's births. If it's a natural birth, we don't have to worry and if there's a problem, no one is really equipped to deal with it. If there's a problem, get Robert to find April. It's the best help he can give us."

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[info]deeks_marty
2013-03-19 11:22 pm UTC (link)
"I don't know. If I knew, I wouldn't have to ask what was wrong." Wow. Was it truly this inconceivable to her that he should be concerned about her? Marty raised an eyebrow when she said she wasn't avoiding him. "My mistake, then. Must be another wrong assumption."

Sighing, he shook his head. "The just in case simply meant it might be nice to give them a heads up in advance rather than springing this on them when it happens. But, fine, you've considered everything already. So, I guess I'll leave it to you to decide how you want to do this." Marty stood up, intending to leave her alone since she obviously didn't want to let him in. But he stopped. But, Robert will not be sent to fetch April. First, I seriously think he would laugh in my face for even suggesting we trust April with the delivery. Second, the three of them have chosen to cut all ties with us. No communication either way. If Dr. Isles is not an option, then no doctor is. We can't contact them and we can't take you to a hospital. So, it comes down to whomever you chose from the people we have available here."

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[info]savannah_monroe
2013-03-19 11:51 pm UTC (link)
Savannah sighed. "I didn't say that you knew what was wrong. I said why would I need help? Help implies that there is something that needs to be done, something to fix. There's nothing to fix." She looked at him. "What do you want me to say? Just tell me what you want to hear and we make it easy, because I don't have the energy to argue with you over things and people I don't care about. You seem to have something invested, which I get. They are your team, your partner, and you're doing what you should, but I'm not in charge, I'm not involved, and everything was going fine until you decided that we need to spend our nights with you defending them. I got it. You like them, you care for them, we need to bow to them and treat them well. You've done your job, I got the memo." And she'd ignore it like she'd ignore other things that other people had said when she felt they were wrong.

Savannah shrugged once more. "I haven't considered anything. I'm just saying that who knows what will happen, and again if it's a normal birth, it's not going to be an issue, but I'll tell all the people that might have to help. Oliver as my partner, Matt since firefighters are trained, Sean, Troy, Alexis, Leon. I'll even tell Robert just in case if you like. Maybe I should just make an announcement at training and cut down on time." She really wasn't worried. This baby would be born one way or another. "Robert would do it if I asked, but that's not-" She sighed again. "I wasn't suggesting that you go get her. I was showing to you that we have no options which is why I'm not worrying. If something happens, you'll raise these children by yourself or I'll have to change and we lose the baby. Those are our options, and I'm not willing to entertain either one at this moment. I believe that God will watch over us."

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[info]deeks_marty
2013-03-20 12:28 am UTC (link)
Marty wanted to bang his head against the wall. "I'm not talking about them. I've said twice, now this is the third time, I want to know what's wrong other than that. But, you can't seem to let it go. I'm not defending them. I'm not telling you to do anything concerning them. The only reason I even mentioned her name was to make that very statement other than them because I don't care about them. I care about you. Yes, Douglas is my partner. But, as I tried to explain before, I wasn't defending them. I was trying to understand what made them different from others with similar traits that you consider friends and family.

"Because whether you believe me or not, whether you want to admit it or not, this level of dislike isn't like you and I haven't seen you actively despise someone this much since Hetty.

"And I've never seen you not consider options or have a plan, especially not about something as important as the birth of our child. Last time you knew exactly who you wanted present. Sam was practicing stitches on chicken for ages. But, now you aren't even considering options? And you wonder why I'm worried about you? Not even that, you seem annoyed with me for worrying about you as if I shouldn't care at all when you stop acting like yourself."

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[info]savannah_monroe
2013-03-20 12:49 am UTC (link)
"Then there's nothing wrong," she answered, getting annoyed. "Maybe I'm not letting it go, because we spent the night with you taking their side when I didn't even know there were sides to take, when they were such a non issue until you brought them up. Maybe I'm tired of having to go through this, first with Kensi, now with Douglas. You always find reasons to stick up for them, and in this case, I didn't even say anything."

She threw her hands up in defeat. "Fine, there's something wrong with me, just like there was something wrong with me when I was dealing with Hetty. It's my fault. Just... let's end it here or it's not ending well."

Savannah slid down back to bed, lying on her side, which was the only way to sleep at this point. "There are no options. The people I trust and who have the skills are gone. Most of my family is gone, my friends are gone. There are people I like, people that I know I can count on to keep cool. Maura was right about one thing, but the time she was done talking, I didn't trust her to ever get near me or my children. So we're left with no options other than to pray, which I'm doing, quite often, but if you're asking me one person I'd want there if you aren't, then it's Sean. He might not be as skilled as Sam, but I trust him, and he can use his power, and I know he'll do whatever it's possible, which is all that I can ask from people who aren't trained."

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[info]deeks_marty
2013-03-20 02:54 am UTC (link)
"What? No! Savannah, no." Marty knelt down beside the bed and ran his hand gently up and down her arm. "I wasn't sticking up for them or taking sides. I promise I wasn't. If that's what it came across as, I'm sorry. I just...I really was just trying to understand what you're thinking, especially when you seemed to like Dr. Isles so much at first."

He brushed her hair back from her face. "Honey, there's no fault and there isn't something wrong with you. But, I do think there's something...bothering you, or weighing on you. A lot's happened in the last couple months and we've all had to adjust to rapidly changing circumstances." He sighed softly. "There are always options. But, no, I'm not asking for you to pick one person. I'm just asking you to...plan, consider, weigh potential options. You've always been the one to go through the logical steps necessary to make sure our family is taken care of. We've lost a lot of people lately. But, you still have family and friends, people who care about you and who we've always been able to trust with our children as much as we'd trust anyone who wasn't us. You still have me, Savannah. I'm right here and this is something I can help with, if you'll let me. Not that I can fix anything, but I can help you get through these times."

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[info]savannah_monroe
2013-03-20 03:24 am UTC (link)
"Maybe you weren't, but it certainly felt this way, and you ignored everything I said, so I'm not sure how you could want to understand. You asked me if they asked for special treatment, and I told you that they received it regardless. You made it sound like we ask who knows what from a doctor, who's not even a real doctor since she cut up dead people, when we asked the same exact thing from April. She was ridiculed for her science like me for my religion, seriously? First it sounds like she said that. Second, there are plenty of women who are doctors. If she was ridiculed, it's because she likes to talk like an encyclopedia and make people ask for explanation, but you know what? People don't like to feel stupid, so I can't really blame them for making fun of her.

"I liked her like I like everyone else. I talk, I interact, I don't let things bother me, except that we kept talking, and I realized that I don't like her. She's mean, arrogant, presumptuous." She snorted. "I can't believe she expected me to trust her as a doctor when I have to research half of what she says and ignore the other half. She's the doctor, I see her, but trust her? What has she done for me to trust her? She's just like the family she married into, except that Bud and Elaine care enough to fake it. Don't think I don't know that they are acting, but at least they pretend that they don't think you're an idiot.

"And Jenna? We lost her too. You remember that, right?" she said, barely refraining from crying, because she wouldn't give him the satisfaction. "She's dead and you're talking about how she didn't do the right thing for Douglas. Those two-" She shook her head. "She did what she was supposed to do when it was someone who mattered, someone we could trust, someone who's stuck by us since we got here, not someone who left as soon as they had the chance. I don't care how their lives where, what their parents said or did. I'm not going to listen anyone, you included badmouth her to defend those two. I don't get it, Marty. Why would you even do that? What have they done that makes you go to bat for them against your own family? And maybe that's why I'm so fixated on this. It's not them. I don't care if they live or die, and I'd be very happy if they decided to stay here, but in the end, I don't care enough about them. It's you. I don't understand you and why you'd even say all of those things, making it sound like they are so great and disparaging people that mean something to me in the process. You've stepped on two years of friendships and relationships and basic tenants of how things run to defend them, and I really don't understand why I and people I care about mean less than three total strangers."

Savannah wiped her face off. So much for not crying. "No, there really aren't any options this time around. We can't go to a hospital. We can't reach out to April. There are no doctors. If something goes wrong, then no amount of trust is going to give people the medical knowledge. The only person I'd trust for this is not here. Would I like for us to find Sam before I give birth? Sure, but that's not planning. That's dreaming."

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[info]deeks_marty
2013-03-20 04:11 am UTC (link)
Sighing, Marty turned and sat on the floor, back resting against the bed. Resting his forearms on his knees, he laced his fingers together, while he looked for the right words. "I wasn't ignoring what you said, Savannah. I was trying to get you to look at things in a different way, maybe. But, I wasn't taking sides. And maybe I see a different side of things than you do. While I will grant you there is plenty of arrogance coming out of the Hammonds, I don't think painting Dr. Isles with the same brush is fair and that's what it sounded like you were doing to me. You started out saying you liked her and then seemingly all of a sudden she was just as bad as the Hammonds.

"But, it's comments like that one right there that make me worry about you and that's what this is all about. Not them. You. Savannah, listen to what you just said. You can't blame them for making fun of her? That's not how you talk about anyone. You have never, in the two plus years that I've known you, condoned anyone picking on someone else for any reason. Combined with how you reacted to her suggestions at dinner, the venom with which you talk of her and the Hammond brothers, I worry. Maybe it's totally justified and I'm over-reacting. But, it's not how you usually react to people.

"Honestly, it doesn't surprise me that she expected you to trust her as a doctor. You see her as the doctor. She's the only one we have, so you see her. But, there has to be a certain level of trust there if you're putting your life or your family's in someone else's hands. Look at Robert and April. There's no doubt in anyone's mind he doesn't trust her and I doubt very much if he'd let her near anyone he cared about. I'm not saying that to change your mind. Just, that much I get.

"I wasn't intending to badmouth Jenna, Savannah. I don't agree with what she did; I'll admit that. But, I wasn't intending to speak ill of the dead. And I told you, I wasn't defending them. I was trying to get you to see why I can't make sense of this because I honestly don't see that they have done anything so unforgivable as you make them sound. I'm trying to understand why. That's all. Maybe I went about it the wrong way, I tend to do that sometimes. But that's all I was trying to do." He took a breath because he knew she wasn't going to like what he had to say. "As much as I love our family, though, and would put any of them first over the others if it came right down to it, they all matter, Savannah. Every person we bring into this team matters. They have to or I shouldn't be their leader even temporarily. That doesn't mean that you or the people you care about mean any less. You don't. But, they still matter."

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[info]savannah_monroe
2013-03-20 04:45 am UTC (link)
"But that's not what you did. Not once did you say this is true but. I was wrong and that was the end of it," she said quietly. "Do you know something else? After talking to her about things that matter, I was wrong. She's worse than they are. Or maybe she is just as bad, but as I don't really have to deal with the Hammond brothers. She's unfortunately the only doctor we have."

Savannah shrugged. "Maybe I'm tired of letting people walk over me. Or maybe I'm just tired of being nice when it's not appreciated or wanted. I tried to be inclusive, they don't want to. I'm perfectly all right letting them stay as far away from me as possible."

She rolled her eyes. "And if April were here and something happened, Robert could say anything he wanted, and he'd still be stuck with her. It's not like we've ever had a choice in the matter. Do I think Robert wouldn't question everything, research it and possibly insult April in the process? Of course not, but he'd have no choice, would he? So once again, why do you understand her expectations when they were never valid for April? Do you... do you like this woman? l mean like like her, not just the way I like people. Is this what's going on?"

She shook her head. "They haven't done anything unforgivable. Anything unforgivable would mean causing the death or injury of someone in our family, and then we wouldn't be talking about them, because they would be dead, and feel free to put any name instead of 'they', and if you don't think it sounds like me, then you must have forgotten about the attack." She brushed his hair as she looked over his head. "It matters that we train them and keep them alive. It matters that we teach them what we know. They don't have to be my best friends. Taking care of them doesn't mean destroying the memories of the people who were here before them, and don't start with G would do this or that, because I don't believe for a second that G spent his nights talking about how great Eliot or Brian are. Still, this is your team, not G's. He doesn't know half of these people and they wouldn't last a week with him. You do what you think it's right, and I will support you out there. You will never hear me say anything bad about them in public, but once work ends or I'm with family, then you're on your own, because when they ask me why I'm asking Sean, Troy or Robert to be at the delivery, they will know. I also wanted to have parties on Saturdays until Sean finds a better place to set up the band or I get too tired, whichever comes first, but I won't let her in my house. I wasn't planning on telling Vance or the older people anyway, but I'm not inviting her and if that means that none of them show up, I'm okay with that. Turning this on me, calling me a liar, not once, but three time, no way she's getting an invitation, especially since she made it clear that she doesn't want to deal with me. The feeling is mutual."

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[info]deeks_marty
2013-03-20 06:17 am UTC (link)
"I get that and I'm sorry. I didn't mean to imply you were wrong. I just...don't see the same things you do. And I know you've explained, but I still don't see it." Reaching up, he took her hand and brought it around to place a kiss in her palm. "And you don't have to be nice, I told you that. I've never asked for nice, only fair."

Marty stood up and stared down at her. "Seriously, Savannah? Seriously? Because I don't agree with your opinion of the woman, you question my feelings for you?" That was pretty much where he stopped listening to the rest because he couldn't see straight. Now Marty was angry. "Let me see if I can make this perfectly clear:

"One - If you had ever once said you didn't trust April, she wouldn't have come near you or the twins. There is no double standard here. I never forced you to see her anymore than you've been forced to see Dr. Isles.

"Two - I'm not G. Whatever G did or allowed, that was in the past. When we find him again, and he takes his job back, if things don't change, then you can question why they aren't the same.

"Three - I am not now, nor have I ever taken sides against you in favor of anybody. I'm not asking that you like them or that you're nice to them.

"Four - I'm in love with you and I love you, whether we agree on things or not. But, if one argument in which I try to get you to give someone the benefit of the doubt is enough to make you doubt that...? Well, I don't know what else to do or say because I thought we were stronger than that."

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[info]savannah_monroe
2013-03-20 02:15 pm UTC (link)
"I might not see things like everyone else, but you seem to be practicing selective hearing, but okay let's do this in order," she started. "One, I never said you forced me. I said that Robert would have had no choice if something had happened. When things were necessary, there was no choice. Whether it was the antibiotics with April, counseling with Derek, the vaccines with Sam or the visit with Maura. In the end, it's not your decision, G, the patient or even the doctor, but Vance."

Savannah turned her head to look at him. "Two, I just told you that I'll support you because it's your team. I don't know what else do you want me to tell you. I'm not asking you to turn into G. I do have a problem when you imply that you're doing certain things because it's the only way to be a good leader, because that means that either G and Derek did it too or they weren't good leader. It might be your idea of being a leader, but it doesn't mean that if you don't do it, you shouldn't be in charge. That was what I was addressing."

She was trying to going by numbers not because she liked lists, but because it was the only way she wouldn't say something she'd regret, which she usually did when people stood there all self-righteous and forgot the past. She would stick to answering his points and hopefully get to the end of this. "You took sides with Kensi and you did tell me that you had feelings for her, so let's just skip number three and go to number four. This isn't about the benefit of the doubt or you disagreeing with me. We disagree about the Hammonds, but you're not going out of your way to defend them. I mean, you are defending them, but it's normal. We have disagreed in the past and I might have thought that you were better off without me, but I never thought, not once, that you might be interested in someone else. This isn't about a disagreement, but about the way you speak about her. I don't mean just what you say, but also how you say it. That's making me wonder," she said with a sigh. "You empathize with her in a way that I've never seen you do with anyone and it's not just one thing, but pretty much every other sentence that shows some emotional connection, so I'm trying to understand why. She hasn't been here long enough to be a reason. She's not the emotional type who would cause people to form emotional attachment. She's only slightly better than Sheldon and Nick on that front. She's not your partners. She hasn't been out with you. She hasn't used her skills to help anyone or to save someone's life, because I can see that being a reason for an attachment. She's not nice or friendly. I can't see any objectively valid reason why you'd seem to care about her and her feelings more than pretty much everyone else. I'm not questioning your feelings for me I'm questioning your feelings for her, because I can't fine any other logical reason why you speak the way you do.

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[info]deeks_marty
2013-03-20 04:55 pm UTC (link)
Growling in frustration, it was Marty's turn to throw up his hands, though in defeat or not he couldn't have said. "Yes, Savannah, you are questioning my feelings for you. You're sitting here telling me you think I put her ahead of you and you wonder if I have feelings for her. So, yes, that damned well puts my feelings for you into question when I'm standing here trying to tell you and have been trying to say since that first conversation that you are the most important person in my life!!"

He was trying really hard not to yell and wake the girls. But, he couldn't keep some of the bitterness from his voice as a result. "But, since apparently we speak two different languages lately. Let's try this again.

"One was about the trust issue and understanding how she could think that way. It wasn't a question that ever came up with April. You liked her and you never considered it. April never brought it up, either. So, I never had a reason to voice my opinion on it. But, it would have been the same.

"Two had nothing to do with whether or not you support my decisions with the team, but directly correlates to number one in that you keep questioning why things are different. Why things have changed from what was done before. Well, other than the situation having changed, leadership changed, too. And you know what? G and Derek...had G and Derek. And Emily and Sam. They could split decisions between them based on strengths. Guess what? I have Derek and....oh wait. Derek. Neither of us thinks the same as those four and neither of us is going to react the same. So, I'm sorry if we're not doing things exactly the same, but we're not them and we have our own ways of doing things and looking at things.

"As far as any implications you have a problem with, I really want you to ask G when we find him if there are people on the team who don't matter. Go ahead and ask him. And if he says yes, then you can bitch at me for my implications because that is the only thing I've said anything about being necessary to be a good leader and it's something I learned from him!

"Three, I forgot, I shouldn't use such absolute terms with you. I wasn't referring to never in all the span of time, but never in the course of the current disagreement. But, thank you so much for following the cliche of the woman who brings up every ill from the past in an argument. I just love being condemned in the present for things I thought resolved in the past.

"Which brings me back to number four.

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[info]deeks_marty
2013-03-20 04:56 pm UTC (link)
"Setting aside -- for the moment -- what has been said, what reasons may be, what defenses have or haven't been given, I am telling you now that I don't care about her and her feelings more than everyone else. And, certainly not you. But, I'm running out of ways to say that you're not hearing me. So, let me set a few things down straight about the rest.

"With regards to the assertion she's not nice, that hasn't been my experience with her, which is -- again -- why I was trying to understand what was going on. The few times I've spoken to her, she hasn't been warm and friendly. But, she hasn't not been nice or polite, either. Comparisons to Sheldon or Nick don't work because we've never had this conversation about them for one thing. And, if we had, any sympathy for Nick ended when he attacked my wife. Now, I know you think she was insulting you at dinner, but she wasn't. Nothing she said was directed at you, while plenty of the things you said were directed at her. And if you want comparisons, if what she said had come from either Sheldon or Nick you wouldn't have batted an eye, either, which is what I said the first time we had this discussion.

"As for not defending the Hammonds, that's because I can't. I have very good reasons for trusting that Douglas can handle himself as my partner, but I can't share them with you because they are mission-related. You don't want to hear about my reasons for disagreeing with Jenna because you agree with her. But, more importantly, Douglas and Thomas weren't mentioned as much because they were secondary to the initial conversation. You weren't telling me one minute that you liked them and the next that they were awful. While I might still not agree with them being awful and I think some of the reasons you gave are still things you accept in others, your opinion of them made slightly more sense. Your change of opinion about her from one moment to the next did not and your primary argument seemed to be her association with them, which isn't fair.

"I was responding to the things you were saying, Savannah. And, while you might dislike the Hammonds, it really sounded like you were ready to crucify her just for associating with them."

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[info]savannah_monroe
2013-03-20 07:59 pm UTC (link)
She almost said that she was lying and not sitting, but those were word games she played with G, and wouldn't work with Marty. Then again, G was always a lot pickier with his words "Maybe I'm reading too much into what you're saying. I don't mean the conversation, but the actual words." She was picking every word apart, trying to figure out what he mean, and forgot that he didn't speak like that. Unlike him, she was willing to accept that maybe she was wrong, and maybe not; time would tell. "Still I don't think I'm the only one with issues here, because what you're saying and what you claim to be saying aren't exactly the same thing." Or even close.

"No one is questioning your leadership, not even me. Yes, I love and miss G. I'm used to his style, but nothing I said was because I think he was doing a better job," she continued. "I think you're seeing lessons where there were none and putting too much pressure on yourself. If it makes it easier, I won't mention him again." It wasn't like she spent a lot of time talking about him anyway.

"The rest? Let's make it very easy. Regardless what you've seen, she's been nasty, arrogant, presumptuous and self righteous with me. This isn't about her pretend husband or family, but about her. You can choose to believe me or choose to tell me that I'm wrong." It wasn't like she didn't know the answer to that anyway. "I'm not crucifying her for her association with them. In fact, at the moment, I like them more than I like her, not that I don't have my issues with them, and I believe that they are perfectly nice with you too, because you are the one in charge and they need to kiss butt. Still if he doesn't get you killed out there, that's already an improvement. Forgive me if I still have my doubts on that front, but I'm happy to drop any discussion about the Hammonds or her. She made it clear that not only I shouldn't talk to her, but I should never mention her again, which might not go exactly like she thinks, but it's fine with me, and this is why I don't want to talk about them, I don't want to associate with them and I don't want them in my house."

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[info]deeks_marty
2013-03-21 05:58 pm UTC (link)
"Maybe both," Marty muttered to himself. "Fine, then what am I saying, Savannah, since you obviously seem to know better than I do what I mean to be saying?"

At the moment, he was wondering why he even tried. This was the story of their life. She got into a fit and went round with whoever tried to help. Then she suddenly, somehow, had an epiphany that made everything all right and it was done. The only time he could even think of that anything he'd said had been right was when she was having a nervous breakdown over the wedding.

"You know what? Just forget it. I don't even know what we're talking about anymore. I think I'm referring to one thing and you're responding about another and, I'm sorry, but this time I don't have the energy to figure out what's going on in that head of yours. I love you. I have no interest in her. I'm not taking sides because there aren't sides to take. I wasn't and am not asking you to do anything with any of them. Interpret things however you will. We don't have to discuss this again. I was obviously wrong and everything's fine. Now I'll get out of your hair and let you get some sleep."

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[info]savannah_monroe
2013-03-21 06:14 pm UTC (link)
"I didn't say that you meant something else, just that it sounded like something else," she said. "And maybe this is why I'm having doubts. You chose to interpret everything I say in the worse possible way."

She sighed. "I'm answering something else? You say she's always polite. I say she's not polite or nice to me. But once again, you can't acknowledge that maybe I have a different point of view. Everytime I've said something different from what you think, I've been unreasonable, wrong, distraught, what else? Oh yes, I was projecting, I was jealous. Let me know when I do something right for you. Good night."

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[info]deeks_marty
2013-03-21 06:22 pm UTC (link)
"No, you said what I'm saying and what I'm 'claiming' to be trying to say aren't the same, which implies you don't think I mean it. And, yes, you're answering something else when I bring some things up. Not that I was referring to her being 'polite' or not with that statement, in the first place, which only illustrates that we're not on the same page here at all. But, I did say you could interpret how you like, so there really isn't any point in arguing over any of the rest of this, is there? Good night, Savannah."

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