I understand how that is because some of them want to make sure I become the most blacklisted horror writer out there. Just because I took pride in being self published. They call lulu.com a vanity publisher but you don't pay a thing to publish with them, and read about self-publishing that the rate of a royality is higher, but it is tough when paying other writers when self-publishing anthologies -- that is when one pays the writers right out of their pocket. I was paying writers up to $40 for their work -- some got paid $11.50 to $30. Being that the HWA treats self-published like shit I really went at it with them about it.