: Saturday, April 17, 2010
- tielan: dissection of Mary Sue and our issues with her - I suspect, when people say "celebrate Mary Sue", they're mostly not advocating bad writing so much as encouraging the development of fabulous female characters. And when people say "down with Mary Sue", they're mostly not decrying fabulous female characters so much as being wary of bad writing that doesn't just start off bad but continues to be bad over the course of years. -
- ar: way too much rambling on mozart and mary sues - You aren't the next Mozart, because I think "the next _____" is kind of a stupid way of taglining people and things, but hey, neither am I, and neither are people who make "Mary Sue" into a dirty word. But dude, if Mozart could get so amazingly good at making cool stuff, you can, too--and you can keep writing cool women doing cool things while you're at it. In fact, please do, because women are pretty neat, if you ask me. -
- quinfirefrorefiddle: I have a little trouble - It isn't that we hate reading about Mary Sues, it's that we hate reading *badly written* Mary Sues. So can we please talk about the *writing*? And stop using the phrase "Mary Sue" as code for "bad writing" and start talking about how to give good concrit about the writing? -
- seleneheart: My Thoughts - What I think is that AO3 is used by particular fandoms and not by others. It doesn't seem to have anything to do with the size of the fandom. -
- elf: Transformative Works - I'm writing about the concept of legality that's been brought up in a few places. It goes something like this: If the AO3 hosts original fic, doesn't that weaken its claim of purpose of legal protection for fanfic? -
- astridv: Man of Steel!If we are talking Sue, Action Comics #1's Superman would be the definitive one. But I think that would miss the point. He's not a Marty Stu, he's a hero. Heck, he's a Superhero.
Then after a while we got Supergirl, and after Batman there was Batgirl, and a bunch more but I'm not that into superhero comics so I can't list them all. Whodathunk: girls like wish-fulfillment fantasies too. (And the female form of hero is heroine. Not Mary Sue.) - shiegra: The matter is being doggedly pursued - You do not get to decide that because they don't write what you like, in the style that you enjoy, to the level of skill you prefer, they aren't a ~true fan.~ The sheer ridiculous, self-absorbed egocentricity would be painfully, contemptibly laughable if they didn't use this as a self-righteous excuse to viciously gang up on, attack and verbally abuse those they deem not as 'good' as them. -
- cesare: more on mary sues - Those of us who've played tabletop RPGs or LARPs know the phenom of players who insist on trying to give their characters way too much power and otherwise make them *~*~special~*~* and it has nothing to do with female empowerment. Dudes do it too, and it's problematic when anyone does it, because it distorts the narrative (and/or game balance) just to satisfy the most predictable desires of the creator's ego. -
- lola: Musing on vidding rules, audience expectations, and aesthetic impact - Lately I've been thinking about the various (productive and/or destructive) tensions that come into play as I vid, as I filter through my various influences and creative impulses, and then revise and critique. I think quite a bit about who I'm vidding for--whether it's for the expectations of the audience or for my own aesthetic frameworks. If I make something that works for me, but not for others, what's the value of that? Or... how much should I respect rules vs. experiment with breaking them? And whose rules? -
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artes: Show you: Some explanation - I know that a lot of people are very excited about the a la carte userpics that have just been announced. However, don't rush right on in to buy them without reading this first! -