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Captain Jack Harkness ([info]foreverjack) wrote in [info]marinanova,
@ 2017-03-21 16:07:00

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Entry tags:ianto jones, jack harkness

Day 420 / Action / Closed to Ianto
He's digested a lot of advice over his and Ianto's relationship problems and the chief idea seems to be to spend some quality time with Ianto in a public place to try and avoid sex getting in the way of actually talking to each other.

So on this particular day, in a vein rather similar and yet surprisingly a lot less kinky than when Ianto invited him to the library, Ianto will find a little note waiting for him when he gets back from the library at the end of the day: The Bistro - 8pm

When Ianto gets there, he'll find an unexpectedly nervous Jack seated ready at a table, dressed in his usual outfit but it's all impeccably pressed (i.e. brought home brand new from the store), and he's even been over to the Sector 3 salon for a hair cut and style and the closest shave it's possible to get.

The lighting in the restaurant is all turned down low except for a pool of light illuminating Jack's table, which is also sporting a wine cooler with a bottle of champagne waiting to be popped, and there's soft, classical music playing in the background to add to the ambiance.


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[info]readystopwatch
2017-04-11 05:07 pm UTC (link)
In an odd way this actually helps him remember his promise to Martha to try to talk to Jack about something real since it does give him an idea of something to mention once it feels like the right moment. The two of them have been exploring more kinky things together lately after all and it relates to that. For now those he's interested in actually listening, and is genuinely curious to see how Jack does managing the place.

"Any name ideas yet?" Better not ask for his input unless they want a repeat of the Risen Mitten.

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[info]foreverjack
2017-04-12 06:29 pm UTC (link)
Secretly, Jack's actually rather fond of the Risen Mitten, and certainly not against asking Ianto for help with the naming of his shop.

"I don't know, I've got so many possible ideas in my head, it's hard to know which to pick," he admits, reaching for the champagne and refreshing their glasses. "I rather like Good Vibrations, but there's also Frisky Business, or the Pleasure Chest or the Smut Hut - or something more personal with my name in like, I don't know, Captain Jack's Exotic Emporium... How is one supposed to choose these things?"

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[info]readystopwatch
2017-04-12 08:32 pm UTC (link)
"And here I thought I was the one who had the weakness for a name that rhymes." A faint chuckle accompanies the words as he listens to Jack list off the suggestions. "You'll just have to go with the one you like best. You are the manager now, after all."

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[info]foreverjack
2017-04-13 04:44 pm UTC (link)
He pouts, pointedly. "Well, thanks a lot. I was hoping you might help me with this one!"

He considers the matter again for a moment as he chews a mouthful of pate and toast. "I might be leaning more towards Captain Jack's, actually. It's a little more personal, you know? And really, for anyone who knows me, the name's practically synonymous with kink as it is!"

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[info]readystopwatch
2017-04-13 05:45 pm UTC (link)
"I like that one. It has a good ring to it and anyone who's met you will know exactly what to expect with a name like that." He likes seeing Jack this excited about an idea. Sometimes he worries he doesn't have enough to do here and all that boredom will catch up with him eventually.

"Speaking of kinks and everything else this conversation implies I did want to ask your opinion on something." He fiddled with his food for a moment before continuing, remembering that promise to Martha about talking. "I like what we've been experimenting with lately. I'd even be interested in branching out a bit more, if you'd enjoy it. I don't suppose your new shop carries anything we might put to good use?"

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[info]foreverjack
2017-04-14 10:20 am UTC (link)
He grins, rather pleased. "Captain Jack's Emporium it is, then!" Ianto's not wrong that (at least now that things seem to have calmed down a bit) he'll be throwing himself into the renovation of his new store. The dissolving of the Defence Force has left a definite gap in his life here, and this will help fill that to some extent.

Dark eyebrows slide upwards as Ianto speaks, but he munches on his toast while he waits for whatever it is to come out. And then he's quiet for half a minute longer as he turns this over in his mind. It's not exactly unexpected, but he wants to make sure they're on the same page before he launches too far into ideas.

"Pain, you mean?" he clarifies. "Different kinds of pain, or more intense kinds of pain - or more the D/s side of things?"

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[info]readystopwatch
2017-04-14 10:54 pm UTC (link)
"Yes, that's what I mean. Nothing too terribly extreme but I've enjoyed what we've been doing and I'd like to explore it further." There's a pause as he gets to the heart of what he actually wants to say here.

"I'm worried I won't be able to handle it. Because of what Tyki did. And it makes me unhappy knowing he took away something I might enjoy, or that I might get in over my head with this. But it also makes me want to do it more. To prove all that's wrong, or make some sort of point about getting past all of it. Does that make any sense at all?" Because if this doesn't count as being open and honest and talking with Jack about something real then he doesn't know what does.

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[info]foreverjack
2017-04-15 06:17 am UTC (link)
He nods slowly. However little they might have actually talked about the Tyki thing, he knows it's still a big trigger and is making Ianto wary of letting go too far. And yes, it's definitely something they should be talking about.

"It makes perfect sense," he nods, with a very gentle look across the table at him. "It's like getting back on the horse that's thrown you. Claiming back something you used to enjoy - or might potentially enjoy, in your case!" A quick grin, because there's still so much in this area Ianto hasn't experienced yet, and then he sobers, thinking about it.

"I assume you'd still want to steer clear of anything sharp - which is fine, because that's a bit beyond what I enjoy giving anyway - but we could venture perhaps into belts and leather straps." He grins again. "Leather's just about my favourite thing to be hit with; I'm sure you'd like it too!"

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[info]readystopwatch
2017-04-15 11:14 am UTC (link)
He feels a flood of relief when Jack seems to get it. Funny, for all he talks about being able to discuss things with Spike this really does feel like a conversation he could only have with Jack. Maybe he's overreacting and everything will be just fine but it's hard not to worry, and he doesn't like letting that worry control his life and what he might enjoy. Tyki shouldn't get to take this away from him, too.

"That sounds good," He ventures, visibly starting to relax now that he knows Jack is on the same page as him. "I trust you, and I like to think that will be enough to help me relax and enjoy anything we might try out. I feel like I've moved on so much from what happened and that being able to do this would prove to myself that I've gotten on with my life."

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[info]foreverjack
2017-04-17 04:52 am UTC (link)
Of course he gets it. He's probably the archetypal example of someone who has a lot of kinks that have been turned against him by various sadistic adversaries, and that's not even including a year spent being tortured by the Master. He's had to learn to get over it each time, and by far the best way has been to do something similar but pleasurable with someone he trusts.

"It's important to claim it back for yourself, to not let him win," he agrees seriously. "I'd really like to help you with that. Do you feel ready to try being tied up again? Let yourself lose control that much in the hands of someone you trust?"

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[info]readystopwatch
2017-04-17 11:54 am UTC (link)
That's it exactly and he knows Jack can read his body language enough to see he's got it exactly. He doesn't want to be controlled by this and if there is anyone who he wants to work through it with it's Jack. He makes a mental note to thank Martha for pushing him on the honesty issue.

"I feel ready if it's with you." and if it turns out he's not ready he feels like he can go through that reaction with Jack as well.

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[info]foreverjack
2017-04-19 09:53 am UTC (link)
And Jack - with the possible exception only of Spike - is probably the best person he could work through it with. Like Spike, he's careful in the extreme of his partner, and Ianto especially because everything matters so much with him. Especially after what they've been through recently.

"I'm glad you feel you can trust me with that," he says, rather humbly, and then adds diffidently, because he feels it really bears bringing up in light of recent conversations: "As long as you feel confident in saying no to me if you find you need to?"

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[info]readystopwatch
2017-04-20 10:40 am UTC (link)
Jack is the only one he could talk to. Spike isn't comfortable with this sort of thing, at least not at the intensity they're thinking of and he can understand why. He's always felt at ease talking to Jack about sex because he always makes it feel so natural and easy. It's never been hard to open up to him right from the start.

"I wouldn't ask if I didn't feel confident." And after everything that has happened lately this level of trust feels incredibly important.

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[info]foreverjack
2017-04-23 07:07 am UTC (link)
"All right, then," he agrees, with a happy smile. It feels really good to be able to talk about these things, and to be able to plan ahead for more - to have confidence that their relationship isn't about to implode as had seemed inevitable just a few days ago.

"Perhaps you could come and take a look round the shop, give me your opinion on what I've done with it and also have a look for anything you might want to play with?" He grins. "I also need some ideas for toys to try with Spike. He's so adamant that he can't see the point in toys of any sort, and I'd really like to prove to him that they can add a whole lot of fun!"

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[info]readystopwatch
2017-04-23 09:33 am UTC (link)
"I can't think of any better way to celebrate your new management of the place." He really can't. Once Jack has finished setting the shop up to his liking they can pick some things out. As for selecting toys for Spike he honestly doesn't know where to begin. "I think it's something he'd be more willing to try with you than me, given his opinion of what a kinky pervert you apparently are. I'd say just select something you can reasonably expect him to try and see if you can get him to have a bit of fun with it. I'll be curious to hear the details, of course."

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[info]foreverjack
2017-04-25 08:44 am UTC (link)
He grins again, thoroughly enjoying the idea of watching Ianto check out the stock and seeing what grabs his attention. They've already visited the shop together in the past, of course, but it's changing quite a bit under his ownership and also this is a bit different, a bit more specific, now that Ianto's expressing such a strong interest in kink.

He very much enjoyed Ianto surprising him by requesting a spanking, back in the library, and he's looking forward to seeing where else this leads them.

He chuckles at the news that apparently Spike expresses exactly the same opinion about his tastes to Ianto as he does to him. "Well, I've already established he's into pain at least a little, so I'm thinking nipple clamps might be a thing to try. But probably more vibratory things. He's still so new both to anal and to anything kinky, I'm wary of going too far and spoiling it all for him!"

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[info]readystopwatch
2017-04-25 01:17 pm UTC (link)
"He might enjoy that." He could see Spike warming up to those sorts of things, as long as he's eased into them. He's so stubborn he seems to insist on trying new things just to prove anyone who might think he's not up to them wrong.

"Has he let you fuck him yet?" Once upon a time he's fairly sure he lived a normal life and then he joined Torchwood and one thing led to another and now here he is, having these conversations over dinner.

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[info]foreverjack
2017-04-26 08:28 am UTC (link)
It's Jack. This is what you talk about at dinner.

He pushes away his finished plate of pate and grins at Ianto. "Believe it or not, I haven't actually asked him yet!" He can be patient when the situation demands, and besides, he likes getting fucked. "Seems to work rather well as it is; I don't want to push, you know?"

A beat. "Or do you think I should?"

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[info]readystopwatch
2017-04-26 01:34 pm UTC (link)
"I can't answer that with any certainty, I know you two have a very different dynamic." True, this is all normal differ conversation with him, isn't it? He won't pretend he hasn't grown to love it over the years. "I don't know if he'll say yes, but I do think you can get away with asking."

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[info]foreverjack
2017-04-27 08:48 am UTC (link)
He chuckles. "Oh well, in that case I might have to try it! I'm not in any real hurry, but if it's something else he might enjoy..."

He glances round as a bot comes over to clear their plates, and uses the break to top up both their champagne glasses.

And, in the interests of trying not to prove that sex isn't the only thing he can ever talk about, he asks, "So, do you have any plans for filling the gap left by the dissolution of the Defence Force yourself? Beyond having more time to bonk Spike, of course!"

Okay, so still not managing entirely to keep sex out of the conversation...

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[info]readystopwatch
2017-04-29 06:43 pm UTC (link)
"I intend to divide my time equally between the two of you, thank you." A dry smile although it's true he could probably use some new hobbies.

"I don't quite know what I'll do with myself. I suppose I'll still try to keep records of new arrivals and events here to try and uncover any patterns. It's something at least." He doesn't want to admit it but the Defense Force meant a lot to him, particularly being trusted to run a section of it. It's the first time anyone has given him any sort of leadership responsibility and he's embarrassed by how much it meant to him.

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[info]foreverjack
2017-05-02 08:36 am UTC (link)
He grins at the first part. He strongly suspects Ianto actually has a spreadsheet somewhere with a log of exactly how much time he's spent with each of them, to make sure it's absolutely fair!

"Records of events sounds very useful, especially now the Defence Force is no longer doing it officially. Someone needs to keep track of these things. I mean, even though the Investigative Team is gone, we still need to investigate things!"

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[info]readystopwatch
2017-05-03 04:08 pm UTC (link)
There is an incredibly detailed spreadsheet in his diary, it's true. He more or less expects Jack to snoop on it since the whole diary concept has never stopped him in the past. Sometimes he peppers in particularly sarcastic comments for his benefit.

"It might be better if it's just the two of us in any case. I suspect that will simplify things a great deal." That was always one of the problems with the Defense Force after all. No real command structure. It might be better to keep it just as Torchwood for now.

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[info]foreverjack
2017-05-03 06:36 pm UTC (link)
He hasn't actually peeked at the diary for a while, though admittedly it's probably mostly because there's been so much drama lately he hasn't had time to think about it! The spreadsheet will certainly get an amused chuckle when he finds it, though.

"Perhaps," he says, rather doubtfully. "I think we really need some other people as well - people who are a bit more invested in actually getting out of here. Or even just people with a different viewpoint, who can come at things from a different angle, see things we haven't thought of before."

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[info]readystopwatch
2017-05-04 06:20 pm UTC (link)
He will have to start adding more detail to the accounts of his sexual exploits to lure him in then. It gives him an excuse to pretend to be annoyed when he catches him reading it and it never hurts to have Jack feel like he needs to make something up to him.

"It's not a bad idea. Maybe nothing as formal as he Defense Force, just some sort of system where people who might be interestied in gathering information can do so." It might not generate as much ill will as the Force did, either.

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