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Sam Winchester ([info]tallerthanthou) wrote in [info]marinanova,
@ 2016-01-12 07:59:00

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Entry tags::class, charlotte charles, nico di angelo, sam winchester, yenyoji quryoja

Day 358 : Paranormal Studies : Open Class Mingle
[As disconcerting as yesterday was, it's a new day and there's no reason for Sam not to have class. Besides, Quinn's mixed holiday party a few days ago gave him an idea for a topic or at least the case study. Which he has been having on schedule whether I post or not and which everyone is welcome to attend and would know about because of mail and the welcome basket and what not.



Overview : Pagan Gods

So there are gods living among humans where I'm from. It's not common and it's not something most people realize, but in ancient times these gods were usually worshiped by large groups of followers. They may have been given rewards for certain sacrifices and the gods maintained their positions and power this way. Over time, ways changed and people moved on to different religions and these gods had to find new ways to survive.

They can come from all over. There were well known beliefs centering around Greek, Norse, and Egyptian gods but there are many lesser known ones and not necessarily all of them were real. Sometimes a legend is just a story, but more often than not it comes from some real account even if it's been altered through time and retelling.

[ Gods ]


Practical : Identification and Defense

These gods are usually very powerful, but the types of powers they control vary from god to god. They are very individual unlike vampires that all share the same sorts of attributes and weaknesses. Long life or even immortality is a common attribute. You can expect increased strength, speed, agility and hightened senses.

Gods have true forms, but can often appear as a human. Sometimes certain kinds of lights can reveal their real appearance. There are also some triggers that will make them expose themselves. The real trick is knowing who you're dealing with so you can research their specific lore. That way you know if you need a wooden stake dipped in the blood of one of it's victims or phoenix ashes or whatever it might be. The case we're about to talk about required a stake of evergreen.


Case Study : Hold Nickar

We were investigating a string of disappearances in Michigan happening around Christmas time. We realized the thing connecting all the missing people were that they bought holiday wreathes mad of meadowsweeet. It's an herb used in pagan rituals to summon gods for a human sacrifice. After some research we figured out we were dealing with Hold Nickar, gods of the Winter Solstice. In ancient times they would grant nice weather after getting their human tributes.

It turns out these gods were living as an older suburban couple. They seemed perfectly normal if you don't know about them pulling out body parts and cutting their victims for blood. If you were wondering if you want someone to pry off one of your fingernails, you really don't. [Yes, that happened to him.]

Shining light on them revealed their true faces and like I mentioned they could be killed by staking them through the heart with evergreen.

[ Hold Nickar ]


Questions & Discussion

And that's it, so any questions? Something to add?

(OOC: Mingle style. Notifs are off so tag Sam during class with questions or catch him before or after. Use your discretion with the links provided. Sam didn't necessarily cover every detail, but feel free to bring more into it, but his canon point is toward the send of season 5, so nothing beyond that.)



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DURING CLASS
[info]tallerthanthou
2016-01-12 02:01 pm UTC (link)
[Raise your hand! Or just say something. This isn't kindergarten.]

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[info]nico_di_angelo
2016-01-13 06:07 pm UTC (link)
[Nico has a question, right at the end there. He doesn't raise his hand because that's dumb (and he never really went to school and learned it was the thing to do, so whatever.)]

So you're saying you can kill a god by stabbing it through the heart with evergreen?

[He doesn't look like he believes you.]

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[info]tallerthanthou
2016-01-14 12:24 am UTC (link)
[He's pretty chill about the hand thing. It actually makes him a little uncomfortable when someone does that.

Though less uncomfortable than when a god asks him about his god killing skills.]


I'm saying you can kill a Hold Nickar that way. Not all gods.

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[info]nico_di_angelo
2016-01-14 01:02 am UTC (link)
You're saying you can kill gods. [Is the point he's trying make here.]

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[info]tallerthanthou
2016-01-14 01:04 am UTC (link)
It's not always necessary, and it's never easy, but it's possible.

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[info]nico_di_angelo
2016-01-14 01:20 am UTC (link)
[Narrows his eyes at you, sir.] How many gods have you killed?

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[info]tallerthanthou
2016-01-14 01:50 am UTC (link)
I don't count. [But not so many it would be hard to count.] That's not really the point here anyway.

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[info]nico_di_angelo
2016-01-19 02:56 am UTC (link)
No. The point is you think you can kills gods.

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[info]tallerthanthou
2016-01-19 03:50 am UTC (link)
I have. But it's not something that I think should happen to all gods. [Assuming Nico's problem here is more about killing off him or his family tree. Which he can understand.]

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[info]takenblack
2016-01-14 12:28 am UTC (link)
[Yen has been paying extremely close attention, biting her tongue and fidgeting. After all, not all gods are created equally—and learning more about how gods in other worlds work is extremely important.]

[Finally, though, at the questions section, she blurts it out.]


How many gods have you slain?

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[info]tallerthanthou
2016-01-14 12:36 am UTC (link)
That's not really important to this conversation. [Considering his relationship with Athena while in the prison, he isn't really looking to gloat over kill counts. Though it's low and hard for his mun to count.]

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[info]takenblack
2016-01-14 01:29 am UTC (link)
Don't be shy! Even one is an accomplishment, truly it is. Yours appear to be lacking some of the more hostile and dangerous features mine possess, but a god is a god!

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[info]tallerthanthou
2016-01-14 02:00 am UTC (link)
Yours? [Oh, you have his interest catlady. To be fair you also did that by being a catlady.]

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[info]takenblack
2016-01-14 02:22 am UTC (link)
A fair question!

[Yen takes a moment to count on her fingers, muttering names like "Ifrit" and "Bismarck."]

Thirteen!

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[info]tallerthanthou
2016-01-14 03:31 am UTC (link)
[Okay, not bad to know, but] I meant you have gods where you're from too? What are they like?

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[info]takenblack
2016-01-14 03:45 am UTC (link)
Of course we do! But particularly looking to physical gods, they tend to only appear in Eorzea, due to the aether.

[That's a lot of words that she decides not to explain, and she talks really fast to get everything out. At least her excitable tone is still pretty coherent.]

They vary a fair bit, but the main theme is that their worshipers manifest them into the physical realm through prayer and sacrifice. There are two exceptions I can think of, but I'm afraid I can't explain them very well.

Anyway! They can also brainwash normal folk into selling their souls to them, which makes them all the more difficult to fight even aside their other divine properties.

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[info]tallerthanthou
2016-01-14 05:04 am UTC (link)
That sounds more like demons from my home in some ways. [But there are summonable gods too and definitely ones who respond to sacrifice.] Especially the part about selling souls.

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BEFORE/AFTER CLASS
[info]tallerthanthou
2016-01-12 02:02 pm UTC (link)
[Here's your teacher. Maybe you've been in this class for a while or maybe it's your first time stopping by. Maybe you just wanted to see if he'd take his shirt off again like yesterday. (That wasn't really him!) Chat him up!]

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[info]pushedback
2016-01-12 02:50 pm UTC (link)
[ It's been awhile since Chuck attended any kind of class at school but she kind of wants to see Sam today. Especially today. She's planting herself in the front row, wearing a dress and a smug smile. Hey buddy. ]

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[info]tallerthanthou
2016-01-12 04:58 pm UTC (link)
[You're going to be difficult, aren't you?]

It's good to see you without a mirror.

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[info]pushedback
2016-01-12 06:32 pm UTC (link)
[ Oh yes. So difficult. ] You too. I get a much better view from here.

[ Eyebrow arch. ]

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[info]tallerthanthou
2016-01-12 09:38 pm UTC (link)
[Wow, you are trying to make him blush. Stop.] Just remember our deal. [No one asks. No one gets hurt.]

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[info]pushedback
2016-01-13 11:51 am UTC (link)
I haven't said anything. [ She doesn't have to say anything to be awful, right? Okay she has to say something. ]

Just tell me — did you have fun?

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[info]tallerthanthou
2016-01-13 02:14 pm UTC (link)
Working on my lesson plan? Sure. [Why are you the way you are?]

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[info]pushedback
2016-01-14 09:03 am UTC (link)
[ Shouldn't you know by now, having walked a mile in her flats? ]

You know what I'm talking about.

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