Well, yeah, but that don't mean it's still not a hobby.
[ he rubs at his jaw ] So, if it's not zombies, and it ain't porn, and I'm gonna guess it ain't this wiki you just posted which leaves...
[ he frowns, out of all their discussions, that honestly pretty much covers it. ] It ain't that emulator thing you made, is it? Maybe programming? It seems like that's what you do.