Adding a second comment. Because I was talking to Shy. Offering up for Val to get his ass beat by Kip because of what Val did to Riley. To quote Shy, Val enjoyed making Riley come so many times that week that he started to come dry. Riley never broke no matter what Val did to him, and Val loved it because he didn't want him to break. He likes it when they fight back. So if Kip comes to kick Val's ass, and whether or not Mars' is there doesn't make much difference. Mars would step in the way to protect Val - because of the way he was raised. So Kip would either kick the ass of Mars (an innocent) and kick the ass of Val. Or he just kicks the ass of Val. Would you be up for demoting Kip to beta for a period of time, and letting Valentine claim both Riley and Kip? I hope this can be locked because I'm going to be copying and pasting for this perfect idea.
shyxhazelxeyes 12:55 am I have this vision of kip in gals bondage and Riley with a collar around his neck, naked but dressed like papi would dress dusk for sex and a chain attached to that collar to the wall so kip had to look at him the whole time val abused kip
Papi would dress Dusk with an anal plug, and Val would add nipple clamps. Interested in seeing this play out?