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vαи dyиє ([info]punches) wrote in [info]avengers_net,
@ 2018-07-15 11:07:00

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Entry tags:- network, hope van dyne, scott lang, tony stark

filtered to the science and tech folks
Sorry to put a break in talks of Borat and other fun stuff, but if anyone is interested in quantum entanglements (the nature of), or the quantum realm in general, it's like someone unscrewed my skull and dumped in a bunch of information. I mean, it's a place governed by something else than normal laws of physics - there's still so much to learn, but from what I know now, I think it could help us understand how to move within time and space the way no one ever has before. And SHIELD is shit, but we already knew that--




Did you dream of rescuing my mom? It's - this is what me and my father have been trying to do for years, and the dream showed us doing it. She's still there, Scott. We have to bring her back.



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[info]the_iron_man
2018-07-15 09:25 pm UTC (link)
Hairy guys in mankinis get my mind off death and destruction for a hot second.

You know what else works? Science. Sorry you got the file dump, I know that's like tripping and falling face first into a puddle of suck. But all this talk about moving through time and space means I let out a noise that only dogs can hear.

Please bend my brain like a yoga pretzel with your pro quantum skills?

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[info]punches
2018-07-15 09:48 pm UTC (link)
The mankini doesn't always do it for me, but I don't judge your tastes.

In the dream I had, it turns out that my mother was alive and had been in the quantum realm for the past thirty years. Not only had she been there, but she'd kind of evolved in a sense - gained extra powers as a result of her stay? The reason we found her was because of quantum entanglement - she'd put a message in Scott's mind when he was originally there, and when we opened a tunnel to the quantum realm for a hot second, she and Scott were connected and he received the message.

I mean, Stephen was in the quantum realm too. What if we opened a tunnel now, it'd be like tuning in to a new frequency - he might have picked up something that could help us. And besides that, if at any point you're moving through the quantum realm you're moving through time - if we open a tunnel to it, there also opens the possibility of time travel.

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[info]the_iron_man
2018-07-15 11:37 pm UTC (link)
I think it makes sense if she spent that much time in a quantum state, that it'd change her on a molecular level. That she got entangled with Scott must have been...uncomf. I mean, that's literally sharing everything that comprises one person with someone else's molecular space. And imprinting enough to leave a message really has turned my brain into a yoga pretzel.

So if Strange has been there and Scott's been there? There's no reason we can't get in. Build something, open a tunnel, and start running experiments. What I need to know is how big of a space do you need and how much power can I supply you with to run it? With you knowing the tunnel and with Lang wiring up everything, should be golden to get it rigged up quick. Because if we can move through time without going bull in a china shop, then we might be able to tweak some things in our favor.

Since this is filtered to professional nerds, I can't say "In before Strange tells us not to mess with time travel" like I want to. I'd be surprised if we can get Strange to hop on board with this without giving us the "Don't mess with time" lecture.

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[info]punches
2018-07-15 11:58 pm UTC (link)
She was him for a little bit too. Like, in his body. Possessed. It was so she could help us get the coordinates to find her exactly right.

Well, I remember everything - my father and I worked on his plans and acquired tech from the black market to build the tunnel. We had our own separate lab that conveniently shrunk and grew as necessary - you know me and the nanotech. I don't need much space. It shouldn't take us long now either, as long as we can get the tech without having to resort to black market dealings? What do you think?

I get that he's going to say that. I'm fully expecting him to. But it's a whole other universe, and it just may be the only hope to save this one.

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[info]the_iron_man
2018-07-16 02:08 am UTC (link)
Okaaaaaaaay. That broke my brain a little bit. Isn't that a little freaky deaky, having your mom possessing the guy you're shacked up with? I mean, that's more freaky than listening to broken record TED Talks by Dr. Strange.

What I think is that you need to start a list of what you need, and that I'm never going to go broke getting that stuff legally. Skip any shady middle man or woman, since being shady is an equal opportunity thing.

Bad news: Banner, Foster, and Shuri are gone. Looks like us three are the science department now.

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[info]punches
2018-07-16 02:17 am UTC (link)
Yeah, it was really weird. Extremely weird. As in, 'things I'd rather not repeat again ever.' I'd probably take the TED talk.

Sounds good, I'm on it. I'll just expand my workspace at Stark Industries a little, and well - since we're not technically hiding from the FBI thanks to the Sokovia Accords, we don't have to go the black market route.

Small but mighty. I can personally attest to how effective a small but mighty task force truly is.

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[info]the_iron_man
2018-07-16 03:57 am UTC (link)
Gonna vote for the TED talk too. Lets back away from that slowly.

Nope, no hiding necessary and we'll make room. Is there a chance it might go boom? Because there's a few floors underground that are shielded and shored up, high security, where the arc reactor is powering everything. If you need some juice, that's the shortest easiest route. We can hook the tunnel into the backup reactor.

Smaller means we'll have more focus to stay on track. Still? Shame they're not in on this. It's right up their ally.

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[info]punches
2018-07-16 02:28 pm UTC (link)
I think hooking the tunnel to the backup reactor would be best, since we'll need a lot of juice. I don't believe any booming will happen, or at least, that's not the goal. Ideally, a smaller, more portable quantum tunnel would be preferred but the plans were for a larger variety so we'll go with that for now. My father built a vessel that could shrink down beyond subatomic level - that's what we'll use to traverse the realm.

Are they...I mean, they're okay, right? They just left this world?

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[info]the_iron_man
2018-07-17 04:02 am UTC (link)
Ok, I'll get started on rigging that up and making room. We'll get a covert expense account set up for parts, too.

Uhh. I dunno. I got worried and popped in to Banner's place and Shuri's lab and it was like, they vacated in a rush. Left their stuff behind.
That's Banner's bug out modus operandi, the guy's a runner, but Shuri's higher profile. So it's possible that one or both of them poofed. If that's what happens? Our resident wizard knows more about that than I do. I'm in the dark about the deets and he hasn't been forthcoming about how bad the parallel universe bust up really is.

What I can tell you is that shit is so borked out, that Pepper forgot she knew about the whole universe being busted and that I went to superjail. She went to meetings in California none the wiser, came back, and then remembered again. I guess Strange told her she had some sort of astral maggots or something eating her memories.

Yeah.

So? I'm gonna go hug my knees in a corner thinking about that again.

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[info]punches
2018-07-17 10:32 am UTC (link)
Thank you. Scott said he'd finish the tunnel if...something happens to me, I don't know. Just being prepared.

Astral maggots?? That's even more terrifying than purple guy, what the hell?

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[info]the_iron_man
2018-07-17 06:46 pm UTC (link)
I think that yeah, not a bad idea. I got gut stabbed by Grimace. I'd better get some print in there so you two can continue if something happens to me. Securing the funding and lab space.

I don't know if they were maggots or not, but they were astral parasites or whatever And Pepper and I did a little tapdance of eww after she told me about it.

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Vandang
[info]burgled
2018-07-16 02:37 pm UTC (link)
Yeah. Like, a lot of stuff that I don't remember happening? But clearly it did but...we've been here. I'm a little confused.

Maybe she's not! If we dreamt we rescued her maybe we did--did you call your dad? They might be on that beach right now.

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Vandang
[info]punches
2018-07-16 04:28 pm UTC (link)
It's basically what happened to everyone else, except they dreamed of an angry purple genocidal maniac and we dreamed of the quantum realm.

I did call him. Hank had no idea what I'm talking about. My mom is still there in this universe, and she needs to be rescued.

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Vandang
[info]burgled
2018-07-16 08:05 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, nothing about that. We had our own little thing going on.

You think that's a good idea to share with everyone? I mean. This is a personal project between you and your dad and it's very important. Maybe we should just have him come here and do this without the freaky Ghost lady and his ex rival.

..do you think it's..weird the purple guy never affected us? Seems to happen right at the same time.

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Vandang
[info]punches
2018-07-16 08:09 pm UTC (link)
I only mentioned my mom in the context of building the quantum tunnel which we need to do anyway because purple guy could start affecting everyone else. I'm going to start it at Stark Industries, alright? Tony has a space for it. And I'll give you a copy of the plans - if something happens to me, finish the tunnel. Okay, Scott? Promise me?

It is weird. Hence why previous paranoia.

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Vandang
[info]burgled
2018-07-16 08:32 pm UTC (link)
What's all this 'if something happens to me'? Nothing is gonna happen to you.

Look, we got your mom here before, we'll do it again. But we should definitely include your dad. And stop being so paranoid about whatever the hell Stark is telling you. It's not in our dreams.

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Vandang
[info]punches
2018-07-16 08:36 pm UTC (link)
You don't know that. Purple guy doesn't seem like he's fucking around.

Of course we'll include my dad. Just promise you'll actually step foot in Stark Industries and finish the tunnel if you need to.

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Vandang
[info]burgled
2018-07-16 08:41 pm UTC (link)
Why are you assuming Purple guy is going to just hurt you? What if it's me instead? Or neither of us.

I promise I'll do whatever you need to help get your mom. But you and Hank are the only ones I'm taking direction from.

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Vandang
[info]punches
2018-07-16 08:47 pm UTC (link)
It could be you, or both, or neither. I'd just rather not be screwed when it comes to this, that's all.

Thank you.

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Vandang
[info]burgled
2018-07-16 08:52 pm UTC (link)
We've already established this is another universe. So that means things are going to be different.

We'll figure it out.

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Vandang
[info]punches
2018-07-16 09:04 pm UTC (link)
We still have to be prepared, and we will be.

I just don't have a good feeling about any of this. Not since the ants started getting anxious too.

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Vandang
[info]burgled
2018-07-16 09:14 pm UTC (link)
I know. But we'll get your dad over here. Whatever happens, happens, but we'll do our best, and be together.

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Vandang
[info]punches
2018-07-16 09:17 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, he just needs to be here. And not act like an ass. It's important.

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Vandang
[info]burgled
2018-07-16 09:32 pm UTC (link)
If it has anything to do with getting your mother back I'm sure that'll be where his attention is at. Don't worry Hope. It'll be alright.

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Vandang
[info]punches
2018-07-16 09:36 pm UTC (link)
I'll try not to. Though Luis definitely had it right when he said my father's left a lot of 'falling out' wreckage in his wake.

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Vandang
[info]burgled
2018-07-16 09:44 pm UTC (link)
Well this is the cool part about knowing things before they can happen. We can do everything the right way. I'm gonna make you some tea with your favorite biscottis and show you some magic tricks until you relax.

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Vandang
[info]punches
2018-07-16 09:46 pm UTC (link)
That sounds nice.

So does the magic tricks. Maybe you'll make your pants disappear too?

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[info]seeswithboth
2018-07-16 04:50 pm UTC (link)
I think you're right -- this reality stream has qualities to it that are preternatural.

Anything you think I need to know?

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[info]punches
2018-07-16 04:59 pm UTC (link)
It does. I know the quantum realm operates completely outside laws of physics too, but this one seems to as well. Maybe because it was 'created' under such strange circumstances (sorry for the pun, Stephen).

Do you remember a SHIELD operative named Ava Starr?

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[info]seeswithboth
2018-07-20 02:53 pm UTC (link)
Ghost.

I know about it, vaguely. I wasn't deeply involved. Similar to the Red Sparrow programs in Russia.

Why?

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[info]punches
2018-07-20 02:58 pm UTC (link)
She was in my dream. Wanting a cure for her condition, which was basically being stuck between this universe and the quantum realm and constantly phasing in and out - and pretty desperate to get that cure too.

If there's crossover, I don't know. She could show up here too.

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[info]seeswithboth
2018-07-20 05:22 pm UTC (link)
Interesting.




I'll let Agent Morse know.

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[info]punches
2018-07-20 06:54 pm UTC (link)
She was pretty anti-SHIELD because they lied about curing her, but if she did show up we'd find a way to help her.

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[info]seeswithboth
2018-07-20 10:36 pm UTC (link)
Some of my fellow colleagues were less than reputable.

Thanks for the head's up.

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