"I haven't, but those seem like they might be a good idea. And yes it..." Philo winces. "Well, I can't imagine it, but it's good that she is here now. Ah gilded cages. I know a man in one of those. Well, in the loosest sense of that word. He's the talk of the neighborhood for all of the unhealthy ways he tries to push back at it." Philo shakes his head. "There are times I do think, difficulty or not, that I've had the better way of it."