[info]keieeeye in [info]07refugees

Another note/welcome

music: Richard Hell And The Voidoids: Downtown At Dawn
Due to [info]squeaky's last post in [info]announcements telling us that GreatestJournal users are being directed to create new accounts here because of server strain there, I'm going to open the asylum up to talking about GJ issues as well. I expect that it will still mostly be about LJ simply because the problems going on there are just so insane and there's already a huge base of us from there, but GJ's technical problems are becoming increasingly overwhelming.

So, if you're coming over from GJ, welcome to our corner of the internet. If you have any questions or problems feel free to comment or email me and I'll do what I can to get you sorted out. Remember to use the tags list when you post, and I'll just go and add some for GJ now.
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Posted on Dec. 6th, 2007 at 11:02 pm | | Leave a comment | Add to Memories | Tell a Friend

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[info]blue_rose

I'm really not shocked, honestly. I've been using both places to test them against LJ's interface and aside from the increased interest list, IJ has won out over GJ every time.
Posted on Dec. 6th, 2007 11:04 am (UTC) | | Reply

[info]cat_mcdougall

I'm glad I only have about 100 posts over on GJ. I have to figure out how to get them, and the comments, just in case. Do we have links to things like that? I saw them for LJ but didn't want to grab my journal there, so didn't pay attention.
Posted on Dec. 6th, 2007 12:09 pm (UTC) | | Thread | Reply

[info]heiko

Here you go!

I'm not sure if LJAchive allows you to use a different domain (eg: fr lj. to gj.), but afaik LJ-sec will be able to repost your GJ entries. Unfortunately, I don't think it does comments, mood etc.
Posted on Dec. 6th, 2007 01:39 pm (UTC) | | Parent | Thread | Reply

[info]catecumen

Vox will also import GJ entries (same as LJ entries), but no comments. Some people are setting up a Vox as an additional backup, but of course, the comments are what MAKE an online journal. If all we wanted was our own posts, we could write them in a hard-copy journal and stick them in a desk drawer!
Posted on Dec. 6th, 2007 01:45 pm (UTC) | | Parent | Thread | Reply

[info]heiko

I know, I know. LJArchive does backup comments, to your HD.

I think the biggest hurdle to importing comments is that you can't import friends as well.
Posted on Dec. 6th, 2007 04:01 pm (UTC) | | Parent | Thread | Reply

[info]catecumen

I do have a backup of my LJ (including secondary accounts) saved with LJArchive, and I will be able to hang on to the comments that way. There are fewer comments at GJ, so there is less to lose there, but it's still annoying.
Posted on Dec. 6th, 2007 04:08 pm (UTC) | | Parent | Thread | Reply

[info]heiko

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Posted on Dec. 6th, 2007 04:27 pm (UTC) | | Parent | Reply

[info]greenwitch

Plus people need to remember that Vox is still owned by Six Apart... although there is a method of replying to comments there, it's just not the same hierarchical structure as LJ's.
Posted on Dec. 6th, 2007 08:43 pm (UTC) | | Parent | Reply

[info]nanny_ashtoreth

LJArchive and LJSec both work for GJ. Way back when, I got a GJ, but after I learned about IJ this summer, I fully switched over here and haven't regretted it yet.
Posted on Dec. 6th, 2007 01:55 pm (UTC) | | Parent | Reply

[info]catecumen

I just saw the post at GJ and came over here. Wow. It definitely sounds like GJ is on the way out.
Posted on Dec. 6th, 2007 01:38 pm (UTC) | | Thread | Reply

[info]keieeeye

The servers have been overloaded there for a long time. I think the combination of people leaving LJ and just the general snowballing that happens anyway are doing it in.

Welcome. :)
Posted on Dec. 6th, 2007 08:21 pm (UTC) | | Parent | Reply

[info]ex_alchemy547

I have a few posts there but I pretty much gave up on GJ with all the userpic deletions. Bit surpised that there's been an exodus?

I don't mind if they come over here. More people to get to know. :)
Posted on Dec. 6th, 2007 02:03 pm (UTC) | | Thread | Reply

[info]keieeeye

Indeed. I only really use mine for roleplay-related stuff, since... that's all I have on my friends list there really, people I've RPed with. But considering earlier in the week I uploaded 100 icons to a new account, and the next day 35 were dead links, I'm not really surprised by this.

My thoughts exactly. :P
Posted on Dec. 6th, 2007 08:19 pm (UTC) | | Parent | Reply

[info]clare_dragonfly

Yeah, GJ's gone to crap lately... my RPG is thinking about moving someplace, maybe it will be here.
Posted on Dec. 6th, 2007 03:35 pm (UTC) | | Reply

[info]sylumgator

I totally abandoned GJ sometime back. Every time I posted there, I got comment spam from porn sites. *gggrrrrrr* Of course, I have my IJ *huggles squeaky* SO don't caremuch one way or the other. :-))

Posted on Dec. 6th, 2007 04:48 pm (UTC) | | Thread | Reply

[info]maureenlycaon

I had to turn off anonymous commenting to get rid of the spam commenter. Haven't had any spam since. But it is annoying as hell. Dunno why it doesn't happen on LJ and IJ as well, but I'm grateful it doesn't. Maybe the spambot that does it works only on GJ due to some weird unique code there?
Posted on Dec. 6th, 2007 05:20 pm (UTC) | | Parent | Reply

[info]cocainekisses

Just came over from GJ. :)
Posted on Dec. 6th, 2007 06:36 pm (UTC) | | Thread | Reply

[info]keieeeye

Well, welcome! :D We're building up a great community here so hopefully you'll find plenty to interest you.
Posted on Dec. 6th, 2007 08:22 pm (UTC) | | Parent | Thread | Reply

[info]cocainekisses

It seems like a great community over here. Right now, just looking for some friends since a lot of my GJ friends haven't come over...yet.
Posted on Dec. 6th, 2007 08:24 pm (UTC) | | Parent | Reply

[info]akai_senshi

*waves* Welcome GJ refugees!
Posted on Dec. 6th, 2007 07:47 pm (UTC) | | Reply

[info]caithyra

Yay! New people, Welcome!
Posted on Dec. 6th, 2007 11:36 pm (UTC) | | Reply

[info]reijamira

Great! Welcome to all the new people here! I'm glad that IJ gets more active! :)
Posted on Dec. 7th, 2007 12:58 am (UTC) | | Reply

[info]lteagleeyes

Hi!

I'm a member of GJ, and I'm still debating whether or not to migrate.... I don't really care for their lack of updates over there :(

And I see Squeaky is a great admin! Responding to a lot of users comments and questions, unlike GJ's :(

I do have a question though... is the permanent accound a one time charge or every few months?

Thank you :)
Posted on Dec. 8th, 2007 03:18 am (UTC) | | Thread | Reply

[info]keieeeye

It's a one time payment. LJ's perm accounts are like... $150 so it seems rather low compared to that, but it actually is a lifetime permanent account.
Posted on Dec. 8th, 2007 03:20 am (UTC) | | Parent | Thread | Reply

[info]lteagleeyes

Thank you :)

That is a really good deal :D
Posted on Dec. 8th, 2007 05:08 am (UTC) | | Parent | Reply

[info]bloodbeat

I'm a gj refugee as of a bit over a week ago. Insanejournal seems much more stable -- as well as very welcoming. Not to mention communicative news-wise!

And I have to say: Your music choice is outstanding.
Posted on Dec. 19th, 2007 04:16 am (UTC) | | Thread | Reply

[info]keieeeye

Oh I love old punk like that. It's great when I'm talking to teen boys and they're all "Oh, you like punk? What bands do you like?" I start listing off all this classic stuff and their eyes sort of go O.O and they run and hide with their Alkaline Trio and such.
Posted on Dec. 19th, 2007 04:27 am (UTC) | | Parent | Thread | Reply

[info]bloodbeat

I'm a die-hard Ramones fan myself. I long nurtured a schoolgirl crush on Joey. Though as is evidenced by my icons, the lovely and talented Patrick Wolf is my musical love.
Posted on Dec. 19th, 2007 04:48 am (UTC) | | Parent | Thread | Reply

[info]keieeeye

OMG YES RAMONES *FLAIL* I practically had a spazz attack when I found a cd with like 30 Ramones songs on it for $10 (NZ, which is like... US$6). What else have I got in my collection...? The Romantics, The Misfits, Iggy Pop, The Clash, Sex Pistols, Social Distortion, umm... Buzzcocks. The usual names, mostly. :P

Though I find it hilarious that the Ramones actually have a song about someone's drink getting spiked. Class.
Posted on Dec. 19th, 2007 04:56 am (UTC) | | Parent | Thread | Reply

[info]bloodbeat

Oh my goodness, you do have some beauties! I was never into what you could call "hard punk," other than the Ramones and the Clash; I'm more of a "new waver" myself. When I was very young, I was absolutely convinced that I was going to marry David Sterry, the singer for a band called Real Life (I wonder if anyone remembers their incredible Beauty & the Beast-type video for "Send Me An Angel"), and listening to them opened me up to so many obscure 80's bands that most people have probably never heard of.
Posted on Dec. 19th, 2007 04:58 am (UTC) | | Parent | Thread | Reply

[info]keieeeye

I think it's been part labour of love, part competitive sport - I've run into people who who bring up songs I'd never heard of, mostly in roleplaying, so of course I'd have to go and find them, and then from there I'd get other songs from the band, and similar bands, and it sort of... spread. :P I was never really a big fan of the Top 40 except during a couple years in my early teens. I can listen to basically anything, but I really love older stuff, and bands that draw off the older styles, and things that are more off the beaten tracks. Some things I find from tv soundtracks too, like one of my Buzzcocks tracks, a cover of it was used in Scrubs and when I searched for it I found the original, etc.
Posted on Dec. 19th, 2007 05:03 am (UTC) | | Parent | Thread | Reply

[info]bloodbeat

I actually came across the Buzzcocks from seeing the movie "Some Kind of Wonderful." Their former singer, Pete Shelly, did a song on the soundtrack called "Do Anything," and I liked it enough to dig a bit into his back catalogue. Then, to my surprise, I found one of his other solo songs on one of my New Wave Hits of the 80's compliations, bought the Buzzcocks' "Singles Going Steady," and I was hooked.

You know, I could swear that I've seen your un on gj, though I'm usually a bit silent there other than in some of the rp comms. It just seems very familiar, though I could be wrong.
Posted on Dec. 19th, 2007 05:09 am (UTC) | | Parent | Thread | Reply

[info]keieeeye

Probably, I have it on JF, GJ, here and CJ (though after a bit of wank that went down with the owner she might have deleted it :P). I'm mostly pretty quiet there too, my f-list is almost entirely friends from the last RP I was in and I just poke up in find_a_pb and find_icons and things occasionally.
Posted on Dec. 19th, 2007 05:11 am (UTC) | | Parent | Thread | Reply

[info]bloodbeat

I'm volcanoradio there. I've actually been more vocal in the news posts there lately, because the situation has had me so annoyed that I felt I had to speak up and say how I felt, even if it is lost on the maintainer. It's a shame to see it go so far downhill, but actually, I'm much more impressed with the quality of ij than I ever was with gj.
Posted on Dec. 19th, 2007 05:13 am (UTC) | | Parent | Thread | Reply

[info]keieeeye

Ha yes, I talk in news posts there and LJ sometimes as well, because I can never quite resist good wank. I think they've cut the icons to 10 again permanently this time, it's listed as 10 on the main page now >.> and creation's shut off again. It all makes me wonder about the fate of RPs there. There doesn't seem to be much that I'm interested in here, though, so *shrug* I just find it hilarious that I hear things about GJ either from news here or this asylum. You'd think it'd at least come up on the site it's happening on...
Posted on Dec. 19th, 2007 05:16 am (UTC) | | Parent | Thread | Reply

[info]bloodbeat

Exactly how I feel. When I heard that the maintainer of gj hasn't actually communicated with his staff in three years, my jaw nearly hit the desk in shock. I can't believe that he's so nonchalant about the running of his own site and doesn't seem to care at all. I've had more news about what's happening there here at ij than I've ever seen posted on the actual site.

The only thing that I'm horribly worried about here is the "comment rot" issue. I do all of my rp'ing (private lines and comms) in threads, and I would be utterly devastated if something I'd spent a great deal of time working on suddenly disappeared and was lost forever. My games are actually now thinking of setting up names on ProBoards, and cross-posting all entries/comments there, as a precaution.
Posted on Dec. 19th, 2007 05:20 am (UTC) | | Parent | Thread | Reply

[info]keieeeye

Yeah, Squeaky said that he was going to have that fixed in the next code update, which I hope will be soon but I'm not sure exactly. I personally haven't actually seen it, which is slightly comforting, but it'd suck to have it happen that one rare time on a thread that you really liked. And especially since part of what I love about journal-based RP is the actual journal part, with the commenting to each other and all. Scenes you can do on AIM and just post in one entry, but the writing back and forth to each other you can't.
Posted on Dec. 19th, 2007 05:24 am (UTC) | | Parent | Thread | Reply

[info]bloodbeat

Exactly, and I really don't want to lose the writing I've done. Because of the sheer volume of it, I don't save my journal entries/threads to my hd, and I don't want to lose any of them -- especially as one of my boys has his wedding to his boyfriend coming up soon. That's something that I'd like to be able to look back on, and though I'm probably being paranoid, I'd still rather be safe than sorry.
Posted on Dec. 19th, 2007 05:26 am (UTC) | | Parent | Thread | Reply

[info]keieeeye

The only thing I've backed up from my old RP Exsanguination was a single post. I'm sort of hoping GJ will just sit around, even if it completely decays, because I'm on a Mac and last I saw the archiving tool that ran on Macs didn't save comments. I'm sort of tempted to change the passwords on the most vital accounts and get someone to do it for me. Honestly I could probably live with it if I lost them, but I'd much rather not, simply because that game was just such a big part of my life for so long, and I've since lost touch with my best friend from it. The scenes and journals we did together and the auto-saved logs from my IM client are pretty much all I have left of her now.
Posted on Dec. 19th, 2007 05:30 am (UTC) | | Parent | Thread | Reply

[info]bloodbeat

I think I would feel the same if I were to lose my posts/comments. I'm also hoping that gj will just sit there even if it happens to decay into the wasteland -- that sounds awfully selfish of me, but I have two private lines there who refuse to move to another server, and I'd be upset if I lost them because they're long-term and I've become good friends with my sl partners ooc. It's heartbreaking to lose touch with people who were a large part of your life. I've had it happen before, so I understand how you feel.
Posted on Dec. 19th, 2007 05:35 am (UTC) | | Parent | Thread | Reply

[info]keieeeye

Yeah, I miss her dreadfully sometimes. It didn't help that at the same time I was having crazy medication issues and having a very rough time emotionally. I was a bit spoiled with that game actually, and it's hard to find anything to measure up now. Hopefully something good will come up here since I took the liberty of creating firstname_lastname for my three favourite characters. :P

I had better go and make dinner, but I'm going to friend you when I get back coz you're cool. :D
Posted on Dec. 19th, 2007 05:40 am (UTC) | | Parent | Thread | Reply

[info]bloodbeat

You're more than welcome to friend me! I've not posted anything in my personal journal yet, though when I do, it will probably be much gushing about my games, and also about music and books (I'm a Brit transplanted to Chicago, and as I don't have a driver's license in this country, I take the bus everywhere -- so I have lots of time to read). In fact, I should be posting something soon about one of my rp couples, because I can't keep myself from gushing over them. But for now, it's past my bedtime, so I shall friend your journal and hopefully talk with you soon!
Posted on Dec. 19th, 2007 05:55 am (UTC) | | Parent | Reply