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snarryhols (snarryhols) wrote in snarry_holidays,
@ 2008-11-30 10:09:00

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fic, giftee: togsos, rated: nc-17

Fic: Everybody Knows
Title: Everybody Knows
Author: winoniel
Giftee: togsos
Word Count: ~28,000
Rating: NC-17
Pairing: Erm, Snarry?
Warnings: Harry is 17; bottom!Snape; graphic violence
Disclaimer: This story is all mine, but is based on characters and situations created and owned by JK Rowling and Bloomsbury/Scholastic. No money is being made and no copyright or trademark infringement is intended.
Summary: Harry has grown tired of the wizarding world. He just doesn't have a good enough reason to sacrifice himself.
Author's Notes: This is AU from mid-HBP; beta admirably performed by H; greatest of thanks to the Snarry Holiday mods!

Everybody Knows

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	lotrwariorgodss 2008-11-30 12:02 pm UTC (link)
	Wow, you surely can't say this Harry's a pawn! I enjoyed how much maturity all the characters seemed to show (except Ron, Hermione, and Ginny, of course), and I really liked the way that Harry and Severus's relationship developed. But mostly...hooray for Harry for making mature decisions. Lovely story! (Reply to this) (Thread)

	winoniel 2008-12-16 06:21 pm UTC (link)
	Yes, I've always thought that Harry was much more savvy than we got in canon. Also, coming from outside of the wizarding world could have helped him to think 'outside the box,' so to speak. He could look at the magical British society with new eyes, and not be satisfied with business as usual. I'm so glad you enjoyed the story! (Reply to this) (Parent)

	dreamingjewel 2008-11-30 12:39 pm UTC (link)
	I liked this story a great deal. I especially liked your portrayal of Harry smart, questioning, pragmatic and much more loving than in canon. There really aren't enough snarry stories out there with the wizarding world and its entrenched ideas being taken to task. (Reply to this) (Thread)

winoniel
2008-12-16 06:38 pm UTC (link)

Yes, I've always thought that Harry was curious and practical at some times in canon, and clueless at times when he could have used his cunning. Also, coming from outside of the wizarding world could have helped him to think 'outside the box,' so to speak. He could look at the magical British society with new eyes, and not be satisfied with business as usual.

I'm so glad you enjoyed the story!

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	alienor77310 2008-11-30 03:25 pm UTC (link)
	Wow! I'm beyond impressed. So many new ideas! The story is excellent, but above all, New! Shiny! revels in the freshness (Reply to this) (Thread)

	winoniel 2008-12-16 06:39 pm UTC (link)
	Thanks! I like to explore how the secenarios would be different if Harry could allow his cunning to develop! Glad you liked the 'freshness'! (Reply to this) (Parent)

	snarry_fan7 2008-11-30 03:33 pm UTC (link)
	Grand work! I love how strong and independent Harry is here and I also like your Snape. Well done.~Sophia (Reply to this) (Thread)

	winoniel 2008-12-16 06:50 pm UTC (link)
	Thanks for your comments. I like to play with how the story would change if Harry showed more independent thought--I certainly think his relationships would be different, particularly that with Snape. (Reply to this) (Parent)

umbrus
2008-11-30 04:23 pm UTC (link)

I love this story, it's so different and new. Way to write empowered and wise Harry. All through out the books I've waited and wanted for him to wake up and see the things and inequalities around himself or just freaking do something about his ignorance. I mean he was a boy made to fight a war to the death, he should have freaked out and attempted to do something about his lack of knowledge and skill. Plus he seemed to have so much power and potential that he wasn't using at all. It irked me to not end.

I think your Severus is not really the man that JKR made but still has that spark which defined him and initially attracted me to his character. Just as I like your Harry very very much I like your Severus much better than JKR's.

Characters aside the story was very satisfying with it's slow but reasonable development that just drags you deeper and the pointing out of the little holes in Wizarding society. I would personally like to see much more of it as it seems to me like a most wonderful beginning.

Whatever else it might or might not be, I think it is an awesome gift. togsos undeniable lucky. Brilliant work!

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winoniel
2008-12-16 07:12 pm UTC (link)

I'm glad you liked my take on looking at the problems of magical Britain.

I have felt the same frustration. Initially, Harry was a newcomer to the wizarding world, but I kept waiting for him to say, "Erm, what's going on?" and he never did! I also thought he was brilliant at solving the puzzles before him, and such a slacker at developing his own quite considerable talents.

Severus is an interesting character, whether JKR's version, or the many viewpoints floating around in fandom, but I'm glad you liked him!

Thanks for your comments!

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	umbrus 2008-12-16 07:42 pm UTC (link)
	so...um the wonderful beginning comments also my way of indirectly asking if there might be a sequel. As that didn't seem to have gotten a response I'll just ask out right: will you be writing a sequel for this? I REALLY want to see more of it. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

winoniel
2008-12-16 08:39 pm UTC (link)

Thanks so much for your interest! It is so heartening to know that people would like to hear more of my thoughts about our favorite boy wizard.

I actually have something in the back of my mind as a sequel-- a friend actually suggested I do BOTH alternatives, but I don't have the mental firepower NOR the energy to do that!

I am currently working on the sequel to a story that I'd previously posted on my IJ. I have started the notes and a tentative outline for this sequel, and plan on starting it soon after the new year.

I REALLY want to see more of it. And I REALLY want to write more of it!

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	togsos 2008-11-30 05:09 pm UTC (link)
	Fantastic. So far beyond anything i had envisioned when i gave the prompts. Thank you so so much. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	winoniel 2008-12-16 07:14 pm UTC (link)
	Thanks! I'm so happy that you liked it! (Reply to this) (Parent)

	serpenscript 2008-11-30 06:34 pm UTC (link)
	Ooooh, i just sat down to read and couldn't stop - and then we're left not knowing the end - AAHHHHHHH! You HAVE to write a sequel!! o_O I loved strong, forgiving Harry, and Draco's slow paradigm shift, and Neville was LOVE, and Snape being met and matched by a Slytherin-minded Harry was just full of win. Love love love it! (Reply to this) (Thread)

winoniel
2008-12-16 07:20 pm UTC (link)

I actually have something in the back of my mind as a sequel-- a friend actually suggested I do BOTH alternatives, but I don't have the mental firepower NOR the energy to do that!

I am so glad that you like the characterizations. I really worked at trying to keep some of the canon personalities, but having them change and develop because of Harry's new viewpoint and efforts.

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	torino10154 2008-11-30 09:32 pm UTC (link)
	A very different take-well done. Harry is not about to be played for a fool, he's strong and confident. I liked his interactions with Draco as well as Draco tragic transformation. I absolutely loved Severus's self-loathing, the way he thought of the blood on his hands and the way his relationship with Harry developed and changed them both. Great job. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	winoniel 2008-12-16 07:27 pm UTC (link)
	Thanks! I really wanted to explore how things would be different if Harry could apply his inquisitive mind to the larger questions around him rather than just whatever puzzle is before him at the school. I rather believe that both his relationships and decisions about his role in life would be dramatically different. Glad you enjoyed it! (Reply to this) (Parent)

irana
2008-12-01 12:17 am UTC (link)

There are so many things I loved about this, but rather than taking up most of the page with comments and favorite lines I will distill it to this:

1. I adore your portrayal of characters. I think it's realistic given all they have experienced and what is expected of each of them, especially Harry & Severus.

2. I absolutely adore the ending! Harry's letter to the Wizarding world was masterfully crafted and I adored the implication that Draco Malfoy and Neville Longbottom were the first two to accept Harry's vision.

I don't know who you are, but if you are someone currently not on my friends list, I have no found a fabulous new writer to watch once the reveals are done.

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winoniel
2008-12-16 07:40 pm UTC (link)

Thanks for your comments.

I am so glad that you like the characterizations. I really worked at trying to keep some of the canon personalities, but having them change and develop because of Harry's new viewpoint and efforts.

The ending was something that I held dear. I really wanted Harry to effect serious change, not just 'rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.' I am ecstatic that you thought it was effective!

As for Neville and Draco, I've always thought that they had a lot more to them than was apparent from the earlier books. We saw it in DH with Neville, and I hope that it was clear that we would have seen it develop in Draco had the story continued after the vote.

I am so glad that you enjoyed the story!

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	thesewarmstars 2008-12-01 02:33 am UTC (link)
	Very poignant. I especially enjoyed Severus' inner voice. And, of course, the blisteringly hot sex. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	winoniel 2008-12-16 07:43 pm UTC (link)
	Thanks for your comments! Obviously, Severus and his thoughts, feelings, desires, etc., is a major love of mine, so I'm glad you enjoyed the characterization. "Poignant" yeay!!!! And, erm,... I'm glad the sex worked for you! :^) (Reply to this) (Parent)

orions_stars
2008-12-01 11:37 am UTC (link)

Wow, your Harry and Severus were radically different from the Harry and Severus we get in canon. That said, I think you did an excellent job of playing things out to a logical and satisfying conclusion. I enjoyed reading this, (even if I had to periodically remind myself that these were not the Harry or Severus of the books :P ). My heart broke for your poor Draco! I was amused by Harry's euphemisms for Voldemort, and very intrigued by your idea of pangimagi and the idea of using Harry as a Horcrux detector. I really liked your ending, and the fact that Draco and Neville supported Harry. Thanks!

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	winoniel 2008-12-16 07:47 pm UTC (link)
	Thanks for giving my characterizations the benefit of the doubt! I really worked at trying to keep some of the canon personalities, but having them change and develop because of Harry's new viewpoint and efforts. Glad you liked some of the ideas and that it was interesting AND amusing (yeay!!!!). Thanks, also, for your comments. (Reply to this) (Parent)

charie-caphine.livejournal.com
2008-12-01 03:49 pm UTC (link)

This is an absolutely marvellous story, with a stuff-of-dreams independant-powerful!Harry and deep-down-gentle!Severus, and a spot on, in my opinion, characterisation of Ron and Hermiony, and the much appreciated (by me, at least) belevable streak of Ginny bashing. She deserves it.

Overall, a beautiful classic Snarry, a wonderful turn on the 'Harry Potter and What the Last Books Should Have Been Like', something along these lines.

Although, I felt the pacing uneven, that with the slow, deliberate and detailed canon-like first half, after which the narration started gaining speed exponentially, and a somewhat unexpectedly sudden finale.

Dear mystery Author, I must express the great delight and enjoyment I experienced reading this.

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	charie-caphine.livejournal.com 2008-12-01 03:55 pm UTC (link)
	Ah, and - good for the wisarding world to have a pangimagus Harry with a power to enforce a representative meritocracy, huh. By the way, what's that spit of arctic cold land Harry has 'acquired'? (Reply to this) (Parent)

	winoniel 2008-12-16 07:50 pm UTC (link)
	Thanks for your comments, particularly regarding the narrative structure--something to keep in mind while I'm writing! I'm glad you liked the characterizations. Showing how relationships and ideals might change because of Harry's new viewpoint and actions was an important part of the story for me. So glad you enjoyed the story! (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	winoniel 2008-12-16 07:55 pm UTC (link)
	Whoops, forgot to answer your other question! I haven't really decided yet where Harry was, as I have a sequel in mind, but I was picturing either the Rockies or Pacific Northwest in the US, the Andes in South America, or the Pyrenees in Europe. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	szefi 2008-12-07 08:56 am UTC (link)
	This was a very intriguing story, I like strong and independant Harry a lot. I do hope we can get glimpses later, how Harry manages to fulfill his side of the contract with magical Britain. (Reply to this) (Thread)

winoniel
2008-12-16 08:02 pm UTC (link)

I actually have something in the back of my mind as a sequel, but I need time to think through exactly which scenario I really want to portray.

I am so glad that you like the characterization. I really wanted to explore how things would be different if Harry could apply his inquisitive mind to the larger questions around him rather than just whatever puzzle is before him at the school. I really believe that his relationships and decisions about his role in life would be dramatically different.

Glad you enjoyed it!

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	leela_cat 2008-12-07 08:29 pm UTC (link)
	I very much liked seeing Harry sit up and do what we all wanted him to do in the books: stand up and cry "halt" to all of the manipulations. Thank you for that. (Reply to this) (Thread)

winoniel
2008-12-16 08:31 pm UTC (link)

I agree! I've always thought that Harry was really brilliant at some times in the books, and brilliantly clueless at other times when he really could have used his cunning to protect himself.

I always felt he had it in him, he was just so used to deferring to others--the Dursleys, Ron, Hermione, Dumbledore--that he didn't allow himself to question all of the inconsistencies in his life.

So glad you liked the story!

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	keyairreem 2008-12-07 10:31 pm UTC (link)
	Brilliant! Fabulous story with a flowing plot and generous characters! Fanastic! (Reply to this) (Thread)

	winoniel 2008-12-16 08:45 pm UTC (link)
	I am so glad that you liked the story! I really agonized aver the characterizations, so I'm glad you thought they were effective. Thanks for your comments. (Reply to this) (Parent)

ivylady
2008-12-08 10:24 pm UTC (link)

Normally I don't like independent!Harry stories because they usually turn him into an invincible superhero, but I really enjoyed this story. This Harry is using his brain and questioning the people around him, instead of seeing things in black and white (like Snape's mean so he's evil and Dumbledore's nice so he's good). He also takes what he wants, but is sensitive to Severus as well.

Loved the letter to the Wizarding world. I've always thought it was cowardly of grown people to wait for a kid to take care of their problems, and I'm glad Harry laid out their options. Great job!

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winoniel
2008-12-16 08:54 pm UTC (link)

I agree with your thoughts about super!Harry, and I wanted to set myself the task of giving him some way of backing up his role in the wizarding world without it becoming a cliched fanfiction story. I'm glad you like the characterization, because I wanted Harry to be inquiring and thoughtful, and if he has any brain at all, he would see the 'gray' areas in the conflict.

I am also really happy to hear that the letter was effective--my pet peeve is the cowardice of the adult wizards of Britain!

Thanks for your comments!

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amanitamuscaria
2008-12-14 11:05 am UTC (link)

Good stuff about Harry working out the wrongness of the wizarding world, but I think you tried to pack too much in. The middle bit, where you had to explain about things chapter 11 particularly, but other places as well, you lose momentum. These places, I feel, would benefit being treated as you have done the rest.
I like your interactions between Harry and the others, particularly Hermione and Ginny, and Draco. You were cruel to Ron - ah, well, he deserves it sometimes.
I believe you could expand this.
Oh, did I mention bottom!Snape was hot?

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winoniel
2008-12-16 09:01 pm UTC (link)

Thanks so much for your critique--particularly about the narrative structure--I did feel that I was giving a lot of exposition, and I need to think about other ways of getting background information out without being too pedantic.

Glad you liked the interactions--I actually really like Ron most of the time--he can often be the quiet support that Harry needs, but sometimes his knee-jerk reactions are too priceless. You just have to take advantage of them!

I do sooooo adore bottom!Snape--all of that self-control, passion, and intensity just begging to be taken!

I do have a sequel in mind--have to get further in a few other stories, but will probably start it early in the new year.

Glad you enjoyed it!

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	firefly124 2009-02-16 08:13 am UTC (link)
	Wow. I really like this a lot. All the shades of grey that get glossed over in canon, especially the assumption that Harry will just do what's expected of him, are so much more thoroughly dealt with. Wonderful! (Reply to this) (Thread)

	winoniel 2009-02-22 02:36 pm UTC (link)
	I agree. I really wanted to show Harry 'stepping outside the box' when it comes to the expectations of the wizarding world. Thanks for reading, and for your comments! (Reply to this) (Parent)

prayer_at_night
2009-03-14 01:54 pm UTC (link)

Wow, this is a very impressive story! It filled me with a feeling of Yes, we can!, if we only work together.^^
I love your Harry; still determined and headstrong, but much more mature and much less clueless than Canon-Harry. He is really wonderful!
I also loved your Severus, all self-loathing and bitter and then Harry comes along and helps him to forgive himself!>///<
The sex scene is sublime (I'm such, such, SUCH a sucker for bottom!Snape.^^ And what Harry says he wants to do with Sev is drool-worthy!^.^), and Snape's lists "Why I should / should not have sex with Harry" are hilarious!^___^
The Oath Magic is wonderful as well (as is Harry's first reaction^^), and Harry's letter to every grown-up magical being is great! His ideas and the things he criticises moved me and made me think and want to do something against the injustice!^^
Really a fantastic story with a surprising Harry and an adorable Severus. (I'd like to say "Well done!", but that sound condescending... so I'll say "I love it!" instead.^-^)
Bye, prayer:-*

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winoniel
2009-03-16 09:27 am UTC (link)

Thanks so much! "Well done," "I love it" I will take any and all of it! Glad you enjoyed it, it was my take on the holes in JKR's story--why would Harry give his all for wizarding society as it was, when he could do something to make it better? Glad you liked the characterization--it's my goal to paint the boys a fully as I can--I, too, adore bitter, yet deliciously bottom!Snape.

As for the sequel, it had to take a back seat to my Snarry Swap http://asylums.insanejournal.com/snarry_swap/31679.html and the Snarry-a-thon that I'm working on now. But I will finish it--it was going to be two alternate endings, but we'll see now, erm... yeah...

It probably won't be until around May, but friend me http://winoniel.insanejournal.com/ and as soon as it's posted, you'll be the first (OK, the 2nd :^) to know!

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	prayer_at_night 2009-03-17 01:32 pm UTC (link)
	Okay now, I know I'm totally stupid, but... how exactly do I "friend" you? (Sorry for being so dense...v_v) (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	winoniel 2009-03-17 03:00 pm UTC (link)
	Hi, I just friended you, so you should get an email, if your account is set up that way, to which you can just friend me back. Welcome to the world of insane journal 'friends'! (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	prayer_at_night 2009-03-18 07:42 am UTC (link)
	Thank you so much!^^ (Reply to this) (Parent)

	prayer_at_night 2009-03-14 01:59 pm UTC (link)
	O my goodness, I just read that you are planning a sequel... could you, perhaps, please, let me know where to find it when you wrote it? (One can send messages here, right??? I'm so uninformed, sorry!>.<°) (Reply to this)

countesszero
2009-04-25 12:52 pm UTC (link)

while harry potter and draco malfoy were rational mature beings the females of your story had not so much luck. the most complex character was snape himself who was cunning, intense and intelligent but had the emotional maturity of a 15 year old (and in that way does not divert from jkr's snape).

i liked your ending better than jkr's ending because it avoided potter casting the killing curse despite his "ability to love". - or in other words: your end makes more sense.

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