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snarryhols (snarryhols) wrote in snarry_holidays,
@ 2008-11-16 10:01:00

Entry tags:

fic, giftee: inoru_no_hoshi, rated: r

Fic: Great Liars, Great Magicians
Title: Great Liars, Great Magicians
Author: loupgarou1750
Giftee: inoru_no_hoshi
Word Count: 24k +/-
Rating: (hard) R
Pairing: Snape/Harry
Genre(s): AU/AR (AR, I think), Forced-bonding, Humour, Angst (mild)
Warnings: *chan (15-16), mpreg, BDSM, cross-dressing, humiliation, toe-licking*
Disclaimer: All Harry Potter characters herein are the property of J.K. Rowling and Bloomsbury/Scholastic. No copyright infringement is intended.
Summary: Dumbledore forces Harry to bond with Snape, who demands an heir, but when Harry announces his pregnancy, Snape doesn't believe him. The road to hell may be paved with good intentions, but the path to love is strewn with sex, lies, and manipulations.
Author's Notes: inoru_no_hoshi, you requested genderbending, cross-dressing, BDSM, plot, smut, snarky!Snape, chan, forced-bonding, AU/AR, mpreg, and creature!fic. I never thought I’d write mpreg or cross-dressing, but I wanted to hit as many of your kinks/likes as I could (alas, creature!fic was sacrificed to the gods of [marginally] coherent plot.) I hope I’ve done justice to your requests.
Huge thanks to my betas, A, R, and Hairy-nosed Wombat. Also *deep bow* much thanks to the mods for your great patience.

Great Liars, Great Magicians

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	torino10154 2008-11-16 10:37 am UTC (link)
	Wow. Snape really is a right bastard sometimes. I kept expecting him to have a change of heart. I do love that Harry managed to turn the tables a bit-Severus's disappointment was so perfect. Albus the schemer was certainly canon. There were just so many games being played in this. Amazing. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	loupgarou1750 2008-12-15 09:21 pm UTC (link)
	Thanks. Snape the bastard is my favorite flavor of Snape, so that was fun to write. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	snarry_fan7 2008-11-16 01:16 pm UTC (link)
	Most excellent and interesting work! I really like how you captured Snape's personality. A very devious trick for Harry to pull on Severus like that, lol. Well done!~Sophia (Reply to this) (Thread)

	loupgarou1750 2008-12-15 09:22 pm UTC (link)
	Thank you. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	entrenous88 2008-11-16 02:03 pm UTC (link)
	Oh! Wow! Deceptions piling upon deceptions. Your Snape is a nasty piece of work, though it was touching that he seemed so lost when he realized the twist Harry managed. Quite a story! (Reply to this) (Thread)

	loupgarou1750 2008-12-15 09:23 pm UTC (link)
	Thank you. I have a deep fondness for utterbastard!Snape. (Reply to this) (Parent)

inoru_no_hoshi
2008-11-16 05:38 pm UTC (link)

I love it! xD I found it by turns intriguing and hilarious - Snape was just awesome. And uh. Was or wasn't Harry really pregnant? xD I got the feeling it was a farce, and then there was the whole "it moved!" bit, so now I'm not sure what to think on that front! xD

You took my requests and skewed them wonderfully. Massive kudos! The continued dog roleplay on both their parts was both a bit weird (as much stuff as I've read, I really shouldn't have grounds to say that, lol) and really funny. Also unexpected, so that was neat.

Anyway, my point with all this is.. I love it, thanks ever so! :DD

~Mara~

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loupgarou1750
2008-12-15 09:26 pm UTC (link)

I'm so happy you enjoyed it -- a big relief actually. I've never written mpreg, and I don't read it, so I'm completely unfamiliar with the trope and was afraid I'd ruin whatever aspect it was that people enjoy about mpreg.

Harry wasn't really pregnant. It was a scheme cooked up by Madam Pomfrey and the potion she gave him enabled him to mimic the physical and emotional aspects of being pregnant. And yeah, the dog roleplay was weird to write; it was as close as I could get to including creature!fic. (I really did try to hit all your kinks. :D)

Happy holidays.

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	inoru_no_hoshi 2008-12-16 09:56 am UTC (link)
	And happy holidays to you, too, and thanks once again for the wonderful fic! Aha! A mystery solved! g ~Mara~ (Reply to this) (Parent)

alliekatgal
2008-11-16 06:01 pm UTC (link)

Maybe it was just me, but I found this crack-fic at its best. Snape was all over the place, first as the sadistic teacher, then at the opposite extreme as the emotionally wounded partner. And Harry went from defiant to weepy to strangely emotionally detached at the end. I did like Poppy's part in the whole charade, and the last bit where Snape says maybe they all make up two and a quarter wizards.

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	loupgarou1750 2008-12-15 09:30 pm UTC (link)
	I'm sort of assuming that by "crack-fic at its best" you mean "crack-fic at best". It's definitely cracky. My giftee's kinks are my squicks, so writing it was a bit difficult and crackiness seemed to be my best bet. Thanks for reading. (Reply to this) (Parent)

literatelier
2008-11-16 07:42 pm UTC (link)

Ahahahaha! I was dying laughing from the minute Harry was all, "Oh, yeah, this? It's just a potion Poppy gave me for the pregnancy...yeah, that's all..." Way to go Harry, lol. That was probably the best payback ever, though I was a little sad that Severus got so upset. :(

This was so good, lol! I loved how Severus just very casually threw back in Harry's face most of his attempts to thwart him, and jeez - never thought I'd see the day Dumbledore gave into bribery. But it worked! So great.

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	loupgarou1750 2008-12-15 09:33 pm UTC (link)
	I'm glad you enjoyed it. I don't do mpreg, so the only way I could write it was to make it a fake. It was fun pulling Poppy in on it. Thanks for reading. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	eriador117 2008-11-17 06:34 am UTC (link)
	Oh, that was interesting, never seen a forced bonding done that way before, very funny :) (Reply to this) (Thread)

	loupgarou1750 2008-12-15 09:31 pm UTC (link)
	Thank you. (Reply to this) (Parent)

ciraarana
2008-11-17 11:33 am UTC (link)

Wow, very Slytherin of Harry, that. And Madam Pomfrey, too! Dumbledore was right, it never serves well to underestimate Harry. *giggles* Hmm, and I loved the D/s bits! Especially when Snape began "taming" Harry. Guh. And the last bit? Harry planning to kill everyone who got in his way? New Dark Lord in the Making? Loved to see that. Also, funniest last line I can remember reading. ^-^

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	loupgarou1750 2008-12-15 09:43 pm UTC (link)
	Thanks, it was fun writing all the deception and scheming. And I'm glad the D/s stuff worked for you, it's not my usual thing. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	jin_fenghuang 2008-11-18 12:12 am UTC (link)
	I have to admit that quoting Hitler, of all people, at the beginning of the fic nearly made me back-button immediately. Having Snarry being associated with Hitler makes me uncomfortable to say the least. I wonder what your intention was? Surely there are less infamous sources for quotes to be had. (Reply to this) (Thread)

loupgarou1750
2008-12-15 09:42 pm UTC (link)

Certainly there are less infamous sources, but once I found it, it wouldn't leave me alone, and it seemed very apropos for this particular fic. I'm not sure what you mean about "having Snarry associated with Hitler makes me uncomfortable," but I'm sorry it did. I'm not sure I had an intention in using the quote, other than that it fit the fic and hopefully gave the reader a little nudge in the direction of "everybody here is lying."

Anyway, thanks for reading, assuming you did.

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jin_fenghuang
2008-12-15 10:32 pm UTC (link)

Certainly there are less infamous sources, but once I found it, it wouldn't leave me alone, and it seemed very apropos for this particular fic.

So trivializing the death and suffering of millions of people is appropriate for your fic? If there are other sources, then WHY did you not use any of them? You made a conscious decision to use a quote from Hitler and now you seem SURPRISED that that provokes a negative reaction? SERIOUSLY?

I'm not sure what you mean about "having Snarry associated with Hitler makes me uncomfortable," but I'm sorry it did.

That you can so easily disregard their deaths that happened barely more than a century ago worries me, to say the least. Just because it did not affect your country as dramatically as the rest of the world does not make it okay for you to use it to be edgy.

I'm not sure I had an intention in using the quote, other than that it fit the fic and hopefully gave the reader a little nudge in the direction of "everybody here is lying."

Your attitude and that you seriously seem to think that this would pass without offending anyone, even though Hitler is one of the most negatively charged figures of recent history, and quoting him LIGHTLY reflects poorly on yourself and your story.

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	venturous 2008-11-18 11:50 am UTC (link)
	this is hilarious, and surprising, and did I mention funny? I just laughed out loud -- I guess its the combination of funny AND surprising, after you have mede me uncomfortable with mean!Snape, clueless!Harry and Hitler quotes. g a fabulous ride. Who ARE you, I wonder? (Reply to this) (Thread)

	loupgarou1750 2008-12-15 09:44 pm UTC (link)
	Thank you. Laughing out loud is a great compliment. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	black_star_neb 2008-11-18 08:24 pm UTC (link)
	love this. I loved how Harry got back at Severus and how they made up in the end. great story, very well written. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	loupgarou1750 2008-12-15 09:46 pm UTC (link)
	Thank you. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	(Anonymous) 2008-11-19 12:31 am UTC (link)
	That was hilarious. The mpreg bit had me a little turned away at first, but I absolutely love love love how you handled it. And I must admit, this story was quite...heated? Fantastic story. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	loupgarou1750 2008-12-15 09:47 pm UTC (link)
	The mpreg bit made it difficult to write - so not my thing, but I'm glad it worked. Thank you. (Reply to this) (Parent)

syrosis
2008-11-20 03:26 am UTC (link)

LOL! Oh man, this is crack fic at its best, it really is. And the awesome thing about it is that this isn't the very obvious crack, but the kind of "I'm really trying to be series here, people!" kind of crack. Or is that just probably me? Lol.

As for quoting Hitler at the beginning? I read someone else's comment about almost being turned off from the story. I just had to say that it actually made me MORE interested in reading the story. I seriously did not expect this to be crack, at the beginning, what with the quote and all. Just had to say that.

And I just have to say I think I know who you are! :p

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	loupgarou1750 2008-12-15 09:48 pm UTC (link)
	Were you right about knowing who I am? Thanks for reading. You're absolutely right, both that it's crack and that I was trying to take it seriously. (Reply to this) (Parent)

cat_lick_girl
2008-11-21 09:27 am UTC (link)

Hmmm, this was really different, so cheerfully cynical, and i liked it a lot. I loved that even Poppy, usually the stoutly nurturing upright maternal female cliche, was so effectively vengeful and coniving, and really got one over on Severus! Maybe it was the Ed Wood reference, but at the end, when Snape was talking about engineering a grisly spectacle for V.'s supposed death, i got the image of Bela Lugosi wrestling that stupid rubber octopus, fake screaming "help!". (yeah, we just watched Ed Wood again) Good job!

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	loupgarou1750 2008-12-15 09:49 pm UTC (link)
	I'd love to see an Ed Wood version of Voldie's demise! It was fun dragging Poppy into the scheming. Thank you. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	ivylady 2008-11-22 08:49 am UTC (link)
	Excellent! I was intrigued from the beginning. I love how cynical this story is. Poppy was amazing. I've always seen her as maternal, so to have her this cunning and devious was a wonderful treat. Great job! (Reply to this) (Thread)

	loupgarou1750 2008-12-15 09:50 pm UTC (link)
	Poppy never gets to act out, so that was really fun to write. Thank you. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	carpet_diemon 2008-11-22 06:18 pm UTC (link)
	Oh dear mother of god. That made my day. My week. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	loupgarou1750 2008-12-15 09:49 pm UTC (link)
	Yay! Thank you. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	szefi 2008-12-04 01:20 pm UTC (link)
	I almost fell off the bed after reading this sentence: "A prick of the finger is all that's required, however, if you'd prefer I finger your prick..." And Voldie killed off with brain seizure was priceless. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	loupgarou1750 2008-12-15 09:50 pm UTC (link)
	Thank you. I live to amuse. (Reply to this) (Parent)

elfwreck
2008-12-17 01:07 am UTC (link)

I loved this.

Loved Snape the unmitigated bastard. Harry & Pomfrey scheming. Snape's hopes dashed--and, in his utterly selfish worldview, refusing to believe that torturing & terrorising Harry was anywhere near as bad as being given a hope & having it taken away. Loved that, by the end of the fic, I couldn't tell who was lying and who was plotting and still don't know if Voldie was dead or if that was some new scheme of A&S to bring Harry into line with their plans.

I love ambiguity in fic, and this one is so convoluted that by the end of it, I was wondering who Hedwig was plotting with.

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	loupgarou1750 2008-12-17 07:46 pm UTC (link)
	Thank you. For everything. (Reply to this) (Parent)

accioslash
2009-01-08 01:40 pm UTC (link)

Oh, this was brilliant! Simply amazing. I admit I was a bit taken aback by the quote in the beginning, but truly, I can't imagine another that would have been more appropriate. I like this view of the characters. It seems more honest than most and has more than a touch of real-world feel to it. I like the idea that the final battle will be a tale spun from whole-cloth by a set of fantastic story-tellers. Nice work. And the false mpreg bit was sheer genius. As was the "bonding." Heh. Brilliant. *bookmarks*

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	loupgarou1750 2009-01-11 12:50 pm UTC (link)
	Thanks so much. I'll be losing the quote when I get around to reposting; I think it does fit, but I've no interest in upsetting people. It was...interesting to write genres/kinks I normally wouldn't touch with a 10-foot pole, so it's lovely to hear it worked for you. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	snarry_reader 2009-01-11 02:35 am UTC (link)
	Just a quick comment to let you know that we've added this story to the snarry_reader on our Master List here. If you'd like us to make any changes to the link, please let us know. Thanks, Gaycrow, on behalf of the Reader. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	loupgarou1750 2009-01-11 12:50 pm UTC (link)
	Thanks so much. I'll provide the Reader with a new link as soon as I get around to reposting it elsewhere. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	loupgarou1750 2009-01-13 10:27 pm UTC (link)
	Hi, Would you link to the fic at my journal, please? Link = http://loupgarou1750.insanejournal.com/78030.html Thanks. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Done snarry_reader 2009-01-16 03:06 am UTC (link)
	Link changed. :-) http://snarry-reader.livejournal.com/46460.html (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: Done loupgarou1750 2009-01-16 10:09 am UTC (link)
	Thanks! (Reply to this) (Parent)

	leela_cat 2009-01-12 11:17 am UTC (link)
	This was so much fun. I loved that way that you played with all of the tropes and cliches. And the ending, along with the "defeat" of Voldemort was absolutely priceless. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	loupgarou1750 2009-02-19 08:18 pm UTC (link)
	So glad you enjoyed it. I absolutely don't read mpreg, so I don't know the tropes and had no idea if I'd hit the mark or miss it completely. I'm relieved to hear I had some success. Thank you. Also, sorry for not responding until now. I don't believe I ever got the usual email notification. (Reply to this) (Parent)

dwarfandelf
2009-03-09 09:35 pm UTC (link)

This story is terribly messing with my head...at first I was horrified and disturbed, then thought that certain parts were disturbingly hot, then found it so ridiculously funny, and overall amazing and genius writing. I think you are incredibly brave to write some things, and I don't mean the Hitler quote (I noticed some comments about that) but the way Snape treated Harry at first. I don't think I left comment after I first read this fic - I was too stunned probably to do so (and didn't know what to say probably) - but I am writing now because I realized this fic has a staying power (it stayed with me in my memory) which is extremely rare for a piece of writing (so many times I enjoy reading something, whether it is fanfiction or published fiction, but completely forget it soon after) so I decided it really deserves a praise. Do you have more ingenious stories written, I wonder... :-)

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loupgarou1750
2009-03-10 06:02 pm UTC (link)

The story messed with my head more than a bit, since I was writing things I don't usually write. I'm honored you ended up enjoying it enough to read it a second time. Thanks so much for coming back to leave a comment. It's really appreciated.

If you're interested in checking out my other fics you can do so on my personal journal by clicking on the "fic" tag, or you can find all (except for one WIP) of my specifically Snarry stuff (& I've only written a couple of non-Snarries, in any case) here at Walking the Plank. Please do head all warnings.

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