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I'm happy when people discuss controversial themes. This forum is not only for singing Severus' praise, but to take a look at his flaws as well. But it is NOTt a forum for ItsAllAboutHarry-love or a general discussion of the HP series for everyone. It is a forum for Snape fans! If you are interested in Snape, fine. Read the rules, sign your post with a handle and keep in mind that you deal with people, not characters from a book. Discussions and debates can be heated and still respectful.
If you are a HP fan and don't like Snape, you shouldn't be here. This isn't the forum for you. If you still come, then there can be only one conclusion: you want to make trouble.
With some of our more recent guests I can't help thinking that the only reason they come here is to bash Snape fans, heat up discussion and act obnoxiously all over the place (and not very intelligent either, if I look at some of these posts).
So, all of you anonymouses, introduce yourselves here. Tell us why you come here. This isn't highschool, it's for adults who are mature enough to respect other people's views and agree to disagree. If you can't or don't want to understand this, you won't post here much longer.
I'll make another intro post for members and regulars soon, I think. A place to see who is who around here.
If you are a HP fan and don't like Snape, you shouldn't be here. This isn't the forum for you. If you still come, then there can be only one conclusion: you want to make trouble.
With some of our more recent guests I can't help thinking that the only reason they come here is to bash Snape fans, heat up discussion and act obnoxiously all over the place (and not very intelligent either, if I look at some of these posts).
So, all of you anonymouses, introduce yourselves here. Tell us why you come here. This isn't highschool, it's for adults who are mature enough to respect other people's views and agree to disagree. If you can't or don't want to understand this, you won't post here much longer.
I'll make another intro post for members and regulars soon, I think. A place to see who is who around here.
annoyed
What she said.
*sits next to Lily and writes about Snape*
-- ioannina
Lynn
Anons Anonomyous
Seriously - I'm a Big Snape fan - main reason I read the books was the twist at the end of bk1 - when it turned out that Snape wasn't the bad guy after all. I think most of the reason I got so involved in Snape was because once you began seeing it from HIS point-of-view, it's like getting a second series of books free! It is so vastly different from the Harry Filter.
Got involved in the forums as soon as I found Galadriel Waters forum - which was VERY insistent on heavy canon, but wildly imaginative on picking up tiny symbolic clues. LOVED the heyday of DevSev on CoS - until it was targeted by trolls and shut down a few years ago. Wandered with the others of Snape's Army over to HPN (Snape's Safe Harbor) which has unfortunately slowed down too much after the series ended.
I post relatively regularly here - but IF need be - I CAN get an IJ acct. if you would prefer to filter out some of the more aggressive anons. I just really haven't bothered because I don't WANT a page to 'keep up'. But I suppose one CAN just never update.
I enjoy Snapedom because of the variety of ideas - altho' sometimes I feel we can go a little too far into fanfic - however that is enjoyable from a whole other perspective - seeing how some of you authors figure your characters out! -- Hwyla
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Re: Anons Anonomyous
There may be a few actions that will affect all anonymous posters, though, if things don't get better. But again, your posts will go through, whether you rant, write something prize-worthy or something nonsensical or just tell a joke. That goes for all of our long-time, well-known anonymous posters.
anonymus
Re: anonymus
no, it won't be made a closed community. I may have to make some posting restrictions for anonymous posters though, and thus I want to know who is who.
duj here
I'm duj, Snape-fan (of course). Like Hwyla, I fell for the HP-series for the Snape twist at the end of PS - in particular, Dumbledore's surprisingly insightful (compared to the rest of a rather cartoony book) comment about Snape saving Harry's life in order to go back to hating his father in peace. 'Yes', I thought, 'people *are* like that.'
It kills me to remember that now, because Dumbledore's lie (It was always about Lily, never about James, and Dumbledore *knew* that) disgusts me now and is emblematic of all the issues that cause me deep disquiet with the dystopia of JK's imagination. It's a foul vision and a foul world, IMO, but my interest in Snape has only grown. If Harry represents divine intervention in the series, Snape symbolises struggling humanity, that tries and fails and tries again. In him, I see the tired untiring workers of the world, who get no adulation, no recognition, no respite, but who get up every morning, face into the blizzard, and keep going. "Lo alecha ham'lacha ligmor, v'lo ata ben horin l'hibatel mimena,' goes the saying: "It is not up to us to finish the work, but neither are we free to give it up..."
My opinions are solidly based on textual analysis, and I find it important to differentiate between the various levels of canonicity, such as explicit text, implied text, deduction, interpretation and canon-compatible speculation. And I prefer debating with people who share my commitment to exploring what the text *actually* says or implies or allows, rather than what they think it says.
I don't have LJ or IJ identities, because I'm too full-on to do it halfway, and I simply don't have the time or energy to join either community properly.
duj
Re: duj here
I come here because I like meta and Snape. Two great tastes etcetera. I'd like to discuss his flaws too, but every polarizing topic seems to be a troll magnet. There's many points where you can fairly criticize Snape, but what makes it complicated, and interesting, is that you have to consider context. For instance, I wouldn't blame anyone for thinking he's the meanest teacher at Hogwarts. But if you judge his teaching by American RL standards, you'd have to do the same for the rest of the staff. Then you fetch up against the fact that Hogwarts is extraordinarily dangerous to students compared to any RL school, and for all his verbal cruelty, Snape seems to be the only teacher who cares about student safety as we Muggles prefer our children's teachers to do. Like I said, complicated.
we know you. :)
I agree, context is important if you want to get to the roots of a character.
I'm afraid that the whole HP series won't stand up to that kind of scrutiny, though, but that doesn't mean that it isn't fun to do it anyway. Critique is good, going off all tangents I don't mind, but if someone comes here only to mock: this I won't tolerate.
merrymoll has forgotten her damn IJ password. (grumblemutterswear)
Sorry to hear you're having a troll infestation - never understood that kind of behaviour. Hope it gets sorted soon.
Re: merrymoll has forgotten her damn IJ password. (grumblemutterswear)
But we know you and you needn't worry about a thing.
No idea why these people behave that way, obviously they have nothing better to do. I pity them, what a great way to make yourself known (or, bravest of the brave, trying to post anonymously): not by producing something worthwhile, but by mocking others. Pity or not, though, they still are a nuisance and need to be kicked out.
Actually, I'd trust IJ more than LJ, that's why we moved here. But anonymous posting with handle is perfectly ok.
I can't remember exactly how I discovered this site, but it involved some roundabout route from the DHs sporking community through various wonderful LiveJournal essays.
Anyway, I've been lurking here for a while now. I don't expect I'll post very often (because you smart people usually say what I'm thinking better than I can, and pick up on heaps of things I'd never notice!), but, if I ever do, well ... now you know who I am. Sort of :)
Hoping to make some thoughtful comments at some point,
JP.
Snape Fan