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Cesare Borgia ([info]il_valentino) wrote in [info]seasidecafe,
@ 2009-02-04 11:43:00

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Entry tags:predictions

Cesare Borgia: Predictions
"I had my own astrologer," Cesare says, to no-one in particular. "We all had."

He chews his lower lip. "But then Behaim - Lorenz Behaim, from Nuremberg - had always been more than a hireling, not someone who prattles idle for good coin. He wasn't someone who would lie to me to save his hide, or secure his well-paid appointment." Cesare's hands need something to do, so he winds up his wristwatch. Once that is done, he continues to twist a cufflink.

"Behaim was my tutor when I was a boy, and a person like that honours truth. Good Messer Behaim... well. He was brutally honest with me. And so I continued to pay him. I made certain he was on a handsome retainer, enough to furnish his library with the best and most sought-after books. But after a while I... stopped listening to him. My birth chart, he'd said, predicted a meteoric rise, followed by a sharp descent. Twenty-six was critical, he'd said."

Cesare shrugs. His eyes are turned inward. He doesn't see the dingy-yet-cheerful cafe. He sees the Adria, smoke rising from Forlì.

"Time rolled around, Fortuna spun her wheel, and I survived my twenty-sixth year. Not only that; it turned out to be a good one. But I did not forget about the birth chart. Maestro Behaim continued to send weekly predictions, suggestions, cautioning me against this move or that, depending on the day. I couldn't bear to tell him that I'd stopped reading his reports years ago."

Miquel insinuates himself, gently twirling locks in Cesare's nape. So bitter, caro. There were other predictions, too, weren't there. And you proved them wrong. Did not a great many misfortunes not befall you?

Didn't... not befall me? Cesare scrunches up his face in an attempt to sound out the double negative.

Mmm. Forget it, Miquel laughs kindly.



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[info]notjusta_teaboy
2009-02-05 12:50 pm UTC (link)
Ianto approaches Cesare quietly. They haven't spoken in awhile, and not really all that often before that. But something about the far-away look in Cesare's eyes tugs at him. "What did happen then, if you don't mind me asking?" His voice is soft, and he hesitates about taking a seat.

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[info]il_valentino
2009-02-05 01:39 pm UTC (link)
"Mh?" Cesare looks up, not quite startled, rather trying to gauge Miquel's meaning.

Leaning back, Cesare crosses his legs, puts an arm across the backrest of a nearby chair. "Master Jones, buona sera," he says with a slow blink upwards. "How fare you?"

He doesn't like it, having to look up like this, so he makes a negligent gesture at the second chair he's been monopolising. "Do I mind your asking? No. No, I don't think I do. I've been told it's all over the books, besides. In various versions... the truth of which I'd deem arguable at best."

That's not really an answer, now is it, Miquel helpfully prompts out of nowhere.

"Have a seat," Cesare nods lazily. "What did happen then? It happened just as my astrologer foresaw. After rising, I... fell. For quite a while." He smiles resignedly, continues, as if that sentence alone explained everything: "I had to leave Italy."

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[info]notjusta_teaboy
2009-02-06 12:54 pm UTC (link)
Cesare looks up at him like he hadn't been aware of his approach.

"I'm doing all right," he replies, as he slowly takes the seat that Cesare indicates. He finds this more comfortable, not talking down to somebody.

"Of course it's told in the history books, but, as you note, that's always the most accurate version." He nods. "Just ash he forecast, except the 26th year part?"

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[info]il_valentino
2009-02-06 02:16 pm UTC (link)
"Erm." Cesare sits a little straighter, a little more properly; it wouldn't do to project impoliteness by way of a careless sprawl. "The predictions about my 26th year were Messer Behaim's way of erring on the side of caution. He said it would be momentous. Dangerous. Possibly fatal." He shrugs. He doesn't quite like the sound of history books; in his mind it's been three years - four, at most - before his plans went astray. "See, and in all that he was correct. He was," Cesare bites his lip, "quite the scholar. Do you believe in the stars, good Ianto?"

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[info]notjusta_teaboy
2009-02-06 02:38 pm UTC (link)
He certainly doesn't care how Cesare chooses to sit. "But you said you survived being twenty-six, didn't you? So the predictions weren't correct." He shakes his head. "Believe that motions of stars and planets predict my life? No, I think I have more control over my life than that."

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[info]il_valentino
2009-02-06 04:21 pm UTC (link)
"Well, he." Propping his chin in a hand, Cesare licks hips bottom lip, thinks. Looks at Ianto. And wonders if he and Krycek ever made up. What an odd, odd couple. "He didn't say I would necessarily... die at 26. And I didn't."

Shhhh, makes Miquel. Piano, caro.

"I didn't." Cesare looks over his shoulder, bristling.

No, è vero. You didn't. When you did, you died unprepared.

Cesare huffs an angry breath. Oh did I. And where were you. Or, more to the point, where are you now? "Control. That is a big word, Master Jones. Do you not believe in the Norns, or in Lady Fortune? Fickle they may be, but they like to make a mess of your control." His voice is soft now, resigned again. "Has it treated you well, and redoubled your worldly and spiritual wealth, your control?"

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[info]notjusta_teaboy
2009-02-07 08:19 am UTC (link)
He's a bit surprised at Cesare's vehemence, the way he looks around. "No, no, you didn't. So, what did happen to make 26 such a momentous year?"

"It has its good and bad moments. But at least I know I can congratulate myself on my own successes and learn from my own failures."

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[info]il_valentino
2009-02-08 03:08 pm UTC (link)
Stapling his fingers, Cesare lets those months pass revue. "Mh. Let's say I made a lot of enemies that year. But not unduly so; I was perfectly within my rights." If only it hadn't grown so damned difficult, his having to navigate between the forces of Spain and France.

"Of course it does," he nods, breaking into a smile. "And despite our astrologers and most learnèd humanists, we prided ourselves on our successes, too. Blaming the vagaries of fate, on the other hand, once things run afoul, is quite the marvelous relief, believe me." He leans closer and hopes to amuse Ianto with a theatrical stage whisper, "You should try it out."

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[info]notjusta_teaboy
2009-02-09 03:33 am UTC (link)
"Was it one of those enemies who was responsible for your death?"

He grins. "Oh yes, what a relief to think that whatever happens, it's not my fault."

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[info]il_valentino
2009-02-09 06:05 am UTC (link)
Death. That is another word he does not like the sound of. Absence, couldn't one call it that? Absence of mind? Absence of life, perhaps.

You're mincing words, dottore. Very good; I can see why you got your doctorate at 16. Always with the prevaricating and the hand waving and-

Don Michele, do you mind?

He looks up to meet Ianto's eyes. Impish, is what they are. "Not any one in particular, no. But they all had vested interests they hoped to protect. They wouldn't have welcomed my return to the political stage. So, yes and no." He sighs.

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[info]notjusta_teaboy
2009-02-09 10:03 pm UTC (link)
He notices that Cesare seems distracted by something.

"So, were your astrologers predictions true or not? It seems you don't really know either way."

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[info]il_valentino
2009-02-10 02:05 am UTC (link)
"Ah, now you are losing your patience with me, through no fault of my own." Cesare smiles. "We can't know fate, can we, much as we try. Astrologers, sadly, don't provide the clear-cut answers this age seems so fond of. I think what they give us are... pointers. And if failed," he swallows drily, "then was it the sum total of my actions, or did the Heavens conspire? Who's to say, Master Ianto?"

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[info]notjusta_teaboy
2009-02-10 07:39 pm UTC (link)
He shakes his head. "No, I'm not losing my patience. Just curious as to what value you place on predictions of astrologers or card-turners. Their predictions are so broad and general that they're useless, in my opinion." He thinks about this. "I would rather take responsibility for myself."

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[info]il_valentino
2009-02-15 04:04 pm UTC (link)
"Wouldn't we all like to believe that." He smiles sweetly, with only a hint of bitterness creeping 'round his dimples. "That we're responsible, in control, masters of our fate. Homo faber, right?" Shrugging sinuously, he idly gaze at Ianto. "Perhaps different times allot predictions a different measure of belief. Mine does... did give them much credence. And at the same time, we couldn't care less. We'd choose to storm a fortress on a more auspicious day, perhaps, but storm it we would."

sorry for the delay, the scribe dragged him all over the Veneto...

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[info]notjusta_teaboy
2009-02-18 01:58 am UTC (link)
"I like to believe it, yes." He nods. "That might be the case. Lots of people today read their horoscopes, but I'm not sure how many actually believe them."

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