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nevermore999 (nevermore999) wrote in scans_daily,
@ 2009-09-08 16:42:00

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char: spoiler/robin/batgirl/steph brown, creator: lee garbett, medium: concept art

Lee Garbett's version of Steph's costume
Just so's everyone can see it. This is the costume we'll be seeing in the interiors and (IMO) it looks a lot less like stripey pajamas and is pretty neat. Also, various comments from Garbett about the costume:

Lee's design:

and:

I really like the darker purple and the stripes look more like stretchy...armor...cool stuff...here. I'm also really fond of the boots and the light yellow detail that complements Steph's hair. I also like the riff on the Spoiler legband and it looks a lot less bulky in this design. Apparently those are NOT pouches, according to Garbett:

The leg-strap was requested by DC as a nod to the old SPOILER costume. In fact I've kept it almost identical to the old one but now in Batgirl yellow but more techy than pouches. The same with her Belt. Other artists down the line may draw pouches but I'm going for more old skool 'containers'. Almost like the Batman TV show, I guess.

My only real problem is with the belt. It's so low slung it looks like it would interfere with Steph's kicking and whatnot, and I have no idea what that silver thing on the side is (a staff?) but it looks to make the whole deal even more restrictive.

Garbett has some words on that too, though:

The lower slung belt was inspired by Han Solo and it won't ever be a problem with her
kicking etc etc because I will make sure I draw it not being a problem with her kicking. As it's not real we can have some artistic license and add some cool elements.

So I guess I can live with that. Low slung belts do look cool, I'll admit it.

Overall, I like it. It's really fun looking and therefore very "Steph". I really like that elements of her Spoiler costume were incorporated, that's what they should have done with her Robin costume. When it was described as "sexy" by Miller at the con, I was a little worried the costume would turn out all gratuitous and impractical, but also pretty convinced that Garbett wasn't that kind of artist and I was proven right, thank the comic book gods.

Here's another comment Garbett's made that might be of interest, regarding the color scheme:

I'm not sure on the color scheme Phil's used but yeah, my original design is two tone purple to ref Spoiler's old look.

You can see all these nice tidbits on his blog. It's pretty neat, and Garbett seems to be a great guy, so I encourage you to check it out and give your input!

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	Re: CASS + DC = FAIL daso 2009-09-09 09:24 am UTC (link)
	You think they did? Cite a source or shut up, don't go spreading rumors. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: CASS + DC = FAIL scottyquick 2009-09-09 12:20 pm UTC (link)
	Hush now. I clearly said "think", and they were the ones saying "We might bring back Babsgirl" at the Source, Lee Garbett said they got a late start because they started after the book was announced, and her miniseries was called "Oracle: THE CURE". (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: CASS + DC = FAIL daso 2009-09-09 06:21 pm UTC (link)
	See, my issue with rumors is that the average human being is dumb as fuck. My issue with your statement of fact "They cancelled BoP to put [Barbara] in [Batgirl]" is that some people are going to believe you. If you're going to speculate, put the "I think" at the start, not only after you get called on it. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: CASS + DC = FAIL scottyquick 2009-09-09 08:45 pm UTC (link)
	Why else would they have canceled Birds of Prey if not to put her in Batgirl? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: CASS + DC = FAIL daso 2009-09-09 09:40 pm UTC (link)
	Sales. BoP sold about as well as Spider-Girl. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: CASS + DC = FAIL scottyquick 2009-09-09 09:45 pm UTC (link)
	I don't think they canceled a series selling over 20k a month where the main character was a major character in the Batverse at the same time as Nightwing and Robin because of sales. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

Re: CASS + DC = FAIL

daso
2009-09-09 09:56 pm UTC (link)

20k is pretty poor for even a fringe title with X, Bat or Spider in the name. BoP was selling above 20k - barely*. If you are either of the Big Two, it's not like you're losing money by printing it, but it's enough to warrant a change. Housecleaning with Batman RIP, relaunching as something else.
But anyway, it seems we are discussing two separate things. Bottom line is I take offense with the way you're stating "They cancelled BoP to get Barbara on Batgirl" and following with "I think they wanted her to be Batgirl, why else cancel the book?". It makes it seem like the two are related and you're stating a fact. Sorry if I was rude, but please don't pass around rumors as fact without a trustworthy source.

*I almost tripped myself up by not citing a source. Here is a sales chart for feb 09, the second to last issue of BoP. It has month-to-month and yearly comparisions.
http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/03/06/dc-comics-month-to-month-sales-january-2009/

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	Re: CASS + DC = FAIL kingrockwell 2009-09-09 02:23 pm UTC (link)
	Puh-lease, they had that shit clearly foreshadowed. Then they put out the Oracle mini just as a red herring? Hardly. It has all the signs of a last-minute editorial decision. And quit being a jerk to other members. "Cite a source or shut up" isn't civil discourse. (Reply to this) (Parent)

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