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Tweak says, "oh I'm ready for it!"

jelly_ace (jelly_ace) wrote in scans_daily,
@ 2009-09-06 21:11:00

Entry tags:

char: batman/bruce wayne, char: king arthur, char: queen guinevere, char: superman/clark kent, char: vixen/mari jiwe mccabe, creator: adam beechen, title: justice league unlimited

Batman does Camelot

From JLU #9. The Shining Knight asked the JLU to help him protect Camelot from Morgaine Le Faye. King Arthur and Queen Guinevere head the welcoming committee for the heroes.

Yes, Bats, you're so sexy even the legendary Queen Guinevere is hitting on you.

In front of her husband.

And the JLU.

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	(Anonymous) 2009-09-06 01:29 pm UTC (link)
	Damn it Guinevere, wasn't Lancelot bad enough? Or have you forgotten what that led to? Off to the nunnery with you. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	404glitch 2009-09-08 05:39 am UTC (link)
	I'm guessing it's before she actually does anything with Lancelot, which would be why Arthur doesn't say anything about it. Gwen has reached the point of noticing non-Arthur men, but hasn't "taken the plunge" yet. Plus, it's an actual kid's comic. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	zordboy 2009-09-06 01:31 pm UTC (link)
	Because he's the goddamned Batman, that's why. (Reply to this)

	retro_nouveau 2009-09-06 01:42 pm UTC (link)
	Why isn't the other King Arthur here? :) Genny also looks like she's intensely checking out the superpecs while the king is shaking forearms with Clark. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	arilou_skiff 2009-09-06 01:58 pm UTC (link)
	To be honest, I thought Gwen was Wondie at first. It's the tiara. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	taggerung301 2009-09-06 01:59 pm UTC (link)
	haha, i thought the same thing (Reply to this) (Parent)

	jelly_ace 2009-09-06 03:13 pm UTC (link)
	Wondie. Bekka. Gwen. Yep, girls with tiaras go for pointy-eared vigilantes. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	cmdr_zoom 2009-09-06 03:34 pm UTC (link)
	Motto. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	jelly_ace 2009-09-06 03:14 pm UTC (link)
	I think she's already distracted by Bats. (Reply to this) (Parent)

zippthorn
2009-09-06 04:19 pm UTC (link)

Why isn't the other King Arthur here?

Readers would, of course, be confused by 2 King Arthurs. I am, of course, being sarcastic. Most likely, the same reason Aquaman became a joke in Superfriends: Aquaman works best in the water; they probably didn't want to shoehorn a scene of him in the water just to justify his appearance. They only had, what, 20 pages? Or was this back when they allowed a couple more pages?

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	mysteryfan 2009-09-06 04:42 pm UTC (link)
	Genny also looks like she's intensely checking out the superpecs while the king is shaking forearms with Clark. It really, really does! (Reply to this) (Parent)

	kamino_neko 2009-09-06 07:23 pm UTC (link)
	Aquaman wasn't a member of the JLU. I seem to remember him being vaguely hostile to them in his few appearances, in fact. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	arilou_skiff 2009-09-06 01:49 pm UTC (link)
	Oh god, that's hilarious. (Reply to this)

	taggerung301 2009-09-06 01:59 pm UTC (link)
	poor Bats he just can't keep the ladies at bay, even in the past (Reply to this)

	greenmask 2009-09-06 02:57 pm UTC (link)
	}:[ (Reply to this)

	skjam 2009-09-06 03:09 pm UTC (link)
	Meanwhile, Merlin is all about Vixen. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	bluefall 2009-09-07 02:42 am UTC (link)
	Well she does channel a dragon later in the issue. If that doesn't get your motor running, you need to resign your Fantasy Wizard membership post damn haste. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	bariman1987 2009-09-07 05:13 am UTC (link)
	Well she does channel a dragon later in the issue Ohhh! And here I was thinking it was some weird "credit to your race" thing. He's actually sensing her totem and noting her power potential. Okay, that makes a lot more sense. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	arilou_skiff 2009-09-06 03:30 pm UTC (link)
	I love teh bats-face in these comics. And the pointiness of the ears. He looks so... Grouchy. Not angsty, just grouchy. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	taggerung301 2009-09-06 03:43 pm UTC (link)
	he's grouchy that he can't be angsty (Reply to this) (Parent)

	sistermagpie 2009-09-06 06:31 pm UTC (link)
	He looks like every knight of the round table as long as they've got their armor helmet on and you can only see their chin. (Reply to this)

	cleome45 2009-09-06 07:38 pm UTC (link)
	While the other kids obsess about whether Betty or Veronica is hotter, or whether the Thing or the Hulk is stronger, I'll be off in the corner; trying to decide whether Batman or Capt. Kirk is the bigger "Canon Sue." (Reply to this) (Thread)

	espanolbot 2009-09-06 08:25 pm UTC (link)
	Ugh, I hate terms like that. They get in the way of the story. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	strannik01 2009-09-06 08:47 pm UTC (link)
	I think the terms have value, but they get abused and misused to a cringe-worthy degree. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

cleome45
2009-09-07 04:15 pm UTC (link)

[shrug] I enjoyed the JLI/JLU cartoons, for instance, but it's still pretty hard not to notice how Bat-centric they are much of the time. About how, at the end of the day, almost everything ends up revolving around Batman and everyone must acknowledge that he's the best of the best who's always right about everything;always in the right place at the right time.

Sure fits the criteria of a Sue to me. And I've seen people apply the term in fandom to virtually any character in a fan work who they don't know but who appears somewhat competent at what they do.

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strannik01
2009-09-07 04:20 pm UTC (link)

The difference between canon sue characters like Eragon and characters like Batman (who often get accused of being canon sues) is that:

a) Batman is allowed to have genuine flaws and failures
b) Batman's victories are earned rather then handed on a silver platter because the writers can't bear to see him challenged in any way.
c) Other heroic characters are allowed to second-guess and question his actions without being vilified for it.

I said it elsewhere and it bears reiterating - just because a character is very competent doesn't mean he or she is a sue (or stu)

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cleome45
2009-09-07 04:34 pm UTC (link)

But the flaws are supposed to be quickly excused, and the failures rarely seem to be genuine. (a)

I don't know what "challenge" would mean in a context where we know that the protagonist always wins in the end. However, he does seem to have superhuman qualities despite the constant assertion that of course he always "earns" a victory because he doesn't have superpowers-- unlike most of his peers. (b)

Maybe they don't get vilified. Much. But at the end of the day, you know it's going to turn out that Batman Is Right, and that whoever questioned him will probably have to admit this. Oh, and feel this deep bond with him, however reluctant. (c)

Fine. Maybe it's a different catch-all/archetype than "Sue/Stu." But for me, it comes closest to encapsulating the annoyance I feel just about every time I encounter the character in scenes like the one above. "Oh, tall stranger. I already want you and I can't even see your face!" Geez. Overkill, thy name is Batman.

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	aaron_bourque 2009-09-07 05:25 am UTC (link)
	Kirk. He has more lovers, and more sex. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	cleome45 2009-09-07 04:10 pm UTC (link)
	:D In the future, everyone will have more, er, "free time." (Reply to this) (Parent)

	superfan1 2009-09-07 01:39 am UTC (link)
	Bruce never leaves the batcave,without putting on axe bat-spray. You know just in case and being ready for everything. ;) (Reply to this) (Thread)

	chengar 2009-09-07 09:03 pm UTC (link)
	Of course, being crazily prepared Batman also has his Bat-Ugly-Female-Repellant for when the wrong sorts of women show up... (Reply to this) (Parent)