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Doop (xdoop) wrote in scans_daily,
@ 2009-08-12 17:22:00

Entry tags:

char: krypto the superdog, char: lex luthor, char: superboy/kon-el/conner kent, char: superman/clark kent, creator: francis manapul, creator: geoff johns, title: adventure comics

Adventure Comics #1

Does anyone else think Superman's attitude towards Lex here is a little OOC? I mean, they used to be friends when they were kids and in Grant Morrison's JLA run Superman said that "there's a good man in there somewhere."

The issue also introduces a new character, Simon Valentine, who will apparently be Superboy's "greatest friend-- and his greatest enemy." Even before that line he reminded me a little bit of a young Lex Luthor. It'll be interesting to see what happens with him.

Also, this was on DC's main page.

Superboy-Prime!

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	runespoor7 2009-08-12 09:25 pm UTC (link)
	Dear Geoff Johns: Please give it a rest. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	volksjager 2009-08-12 11:39 pm UTC (link)
	It gets worse if you read the preview of the new Clark Kent/Smallville origin that geoff is about to trample on... (Reply to this) (Parent)

	wtfomfg2 2009-08-12 09:32 pm UTC (link)
	This might be a little off topic, but am I the only one who thinks this book would be the perfect place to bring Chloe Sullivan into the DCU? I mean, she could have almost the exact same role she has in the earlier seasons of Smallville, just with Kon instead of Clark. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	majingojira 2009-08-12 09:35 pm UTC (link)
	It's never just you. Especially now that you've mentioned it. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	icon_uk 2009-08-12 09:37 pm UTC (link)
	Interesting notion, the only problem with it that I can see being that Chloe was already more of a Lois Lane than their Lois Lane was, and I don't necessarily want to see Kon have to deal with EVERYTHING that Clark did. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

aaron_bourque, 2009-08-13 01:47 am UTC

jlbarnett, 2009-08-13 03:11 am UTC

icon_uk, 2009-08-13 07:31 am UTC

scottyquick, 2009-08-14 12:23 am UTC

yaseen101, 2009-08-14 10:17 am UTC

majingojira
2009-08-12 09:34 pm UTC (link)

Knowing about how genetics does influence how a person turns out, and how the nature/nuture debate makes seeing storylines like this where they hamfistedly play with the concept rather painful to read.

Here's the rub, while a person may be genetically predispoded to a behavior, experiences in their life have to exist for it to be triggered.

At least, according to the most recent thinking on the subject that I've had access too.

So no, yeah. Conner. Your angst is as manufactured as you are. Shut it.

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	arilou_skiff 2009-08-13 07:57 am UTC (link)
	"Men make their history, but in circumstances not of their own making." (Reply to this) (Parent)

	kingrockwell 2009-08-12 09:38 pm UTC (link)
	Oh, Kon, that's just silly! You quit that now, quit that! (Reply to this)

	aegof.livejournal.com 2009-08-12 09:50 pm UTC (link)
	This is the only story Superboy's ever going to have. Ever. Every other story he'll ever have will stem from, be related to, or be retconed to be a part of this one. (Reply to this)

	(Anonymous) 2009-08-12 10:11 pm UTC (link)
	Is it me or it Clark's bulge somewhat prominent in the first scan? I'm starting to think I see it every time they show a superhero's crotch. (Reply to this) (Thread)

minarho1, 2009-08-12 10:24 pm UTC

dr_hermes, 2009-08-13 04:46 am UTC

unknownscribler, 2009-08-13 01:12 pm UTC

nezchan, 2009-08-13 03:59 pm UTC

	octopussoir 2009-08-12 10:18 pm UTC (link)
	While the writing leaves much to be desired, the art is gorgeous. I might just buy it for the art and play sticky note madlibs with the dialogue same way I did with Hush. (Reply to this) (Thread)

jelly_ace, 2009-08-12 10:36 pm UTC

	minarho1 2009-08-12 10:21 pm UTC (link)
	The "NEXT: WonderGirl!* thing cracks me up. Maybe it's the ridiculously laid out good/evil itinerary in Conner's diary leading up to it. (Reply to this) (Thread)

bluefall, 2009-08-13 12:05 am UTC

aegof.livejournal.com, 2009-08-13 12:44 am UTC

minarho1, 2009-08-13 03:26 am UTC

scottyquick, 2009-08-13 06:26 am UTC

unknownscribler, 2009-08-13 01:14 pm UTC

	aeolos_sakya 2009-08-12 10:28 pm UTC (link)
	Oh, please, Kon, it's like if you were lying to your father or brother. That doesn't mean you are going to be evil. Johns, please, you can be better than that... (Reply to this) (Thread)

comicoz, 2009-08-13 05:44 am UTC

aeolos_sakya, 2009-08-16 09:25 pm UTC

runespoor7
2009-08-12 10:29 pm UTC (link)

To develop: not only is it frickin' annoying that Geoff Johns is again pushing his retcon baby down our throat - and like others have said, making it look like Kon is never going to have a storyline not somehow related to the evil half of his genetic make-up - but how does it make sense?

He's hung around with Tim Drake, and Tim is the poster boy for 'I lie to my mentor'! And Kon's a teen! Lying to one's parental figure = teenaged behaviour! How does that add up to Kon angsting over lying to Superman? What ever could give him the dumb idea that lying to Superman = Lex Luthor?!

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merseybeatler, 2009-08-12 10:32 pm UTC

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majingojira, 2009-08-12 11:29 pm UTC

	mullon 2009-08-12 10:47 pm UTC (link)
	I'm okay with Superman thinking Luthor is an irredeemable sociopath, becaue he kinda is. As I read this, I tihnk that the storyline is going to be about Kon trying to redeem Luthor somehow, which could be interesting. (Reply to this) (Thread)

schmevil, 2009-08-12 11:07 pm UTC

superfan1, 2009-08-12 11:32 pm UTC

punishermax, 2009-08-13 12:06 am UTC

zegim, 2009-08-13 04:54 am UTC

arilou_skiff, 2009-08-13 07:58 am UTC

milleniumrex, 2009-08-13 07:25 pm UTC

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rab62
2009-08-12 10:48 pm UTC (link)

Much agreement that Superman's comments about Lex are all wrong. Not just in a continuity-oriented sense, but in the more fundamental sense that Superman's core philosophy should always be that no one is beyond hope and you should try to help everyone.

The writer of this comic should consult with the guy who wrote Legion of Three Worlds, which addressed this very topic... ;-)

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	jelly_ace 2009-08-12 10:51 pm UTC (link)
	Kon should just hang out with Tim and work out their angst together. Angst and authority figures/idols don't mix. (Reply to this) (Thread)

icon_uk, 2009-08-13 07:34 am UTC

lurkslikefox, 2009-08-13 09:51 pm UTC

	daningram 2009-08-12 11:19 pm UTC (link)
	Sorry Connor, Lex was born bad. DC's been pretty clear about genetic predetermination. Batgirl couldn't win, and neither will you. Sorry. (Reply to this) (Thread)

runespoor7, 2009-08-12 11:23 pm UTC

enerprime, 2009-08-12 11:48 pm UTC

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tahngarth, 2009-08-13 12:05 am UTC

daningram, 2009-08-13 12:19 am UTC

tahngarth, 2009-08-13 12:23 am UTC

runespoor7, 2009-08-13 12:24 am UTC

tavella, 2009-08-13 01:07 am UTC

It's not just them.. -

daningram, 2009-08-13 01:19 am UTC

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xdoop, 2009-08-13 01:26 am UTC

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xdoop, 2009-08-13 01:31 am UTC

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xdoop, 2009-08-13 01:46 am UTC

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daningram, 2009-08-13 01:54 am UTC

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xdoop, 2009-08-13 02:13 am UTC

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daningram, 2009-08-13 11:08 am UTC

icon_uk, 2009-08-13 07:33 am UTC

bjorkubus, 2009-08-13 01:24 am UTC

majingojira, 2009-08-13 04:21 am UTC

xdoop, 2009-08-13 01:30 am UTC

daningram, 2009-08-13 01:33 am UTC

xdoop, 2009-08-13 01:40 am UTC

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daningram, 2009-08-13 10:55 am UTC

	ashez2ashes 2009-08-12 11:53 pm UTC (link)
	This art is sooo pretty. Oh Kon, you're so man pretty... I'd like to see this artist and colorist on Wonder Woman. The style would really lend itself well to mythic themes. (Reply to this) (Thread)

gothamsprincess, 2009-08-13 04:29 am UTC

	perletwo 2009-08-13 12:35 am UTC (link)
	Now that you've posted these four pages, does that mean we can't post anything from the Legion back-up? Coz I may have...nitpicks. Particularly with those funky yellow holo-ID boxes. (Reply to this) (Thread)

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sistermagpie
2009-08-13 12:57 am UTC (link)

I swear from reading comics you'd think that everyone grew up obsessed with exactly what kind of people their parents were because they were fated to be one or the other. I've never in my life thought of either of my parents or anything in my DNA as holding my doom in terms of ethical development.

Also, Kon? I think everyone's lied to Superman. Superman himself lies to everyone even more.

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daningram, 2009-08-13 01:43 am UTC

	bjorkubus 2009-08-13 01:25 am UTC (link)
	This looks like it was colored with Copic Markers.. and I LOVE IT. (Reply to this)

	zegim 2009-08-13 04:55 am UTC (link)
	Everything in this issue was going great until these pages. I said "wut?" out loud. (Reply to this)

	lencannon 2009-08-13 05:13 pm UTC (link)
	I think you are all misreading what is happening in this comic (the same way Superman is). Superboy isn't at Luthor's house, asking questions about him because he is worried about what type of person his father will turn him into. At the end of the book, he marks off "helps anyone who needs it" because that's what he plans to do. Help Lex Luthor become a better person. (Reply to this) (Thread)

xdoop, 2009-08-13 05:19 pm UTC

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	janegray 2009-08-14 01:34 pm UTC (link)
	This art is gorgeous :DDD I've never been a Superboy fan, but now I'm curious. Who created Connor? How did Lex react when he learned that somebody had made a clone of him and Superman? (Reply to this) (Thread)

xdoop, 2009-08-14 03:11 pm UTC