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Tweak says, "that is peachy fine"

04nbod (04nbod) wrote in scans_daily,
@ 2009-07-30 15:08:00

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char: parasite, char: zachary zatara, creator: james robinson, publisher: dc comics, title: superman

Superman #690

This issue was weird, it was both conclusion and set up in a strange sequence of vignettes that ended with 'continued in ______' every three pages. I was looking forward to the Tellus/Sodam Yat interaction but that came to nothing. Tellus just tells him to go away and Sodam just does. I found the Zatara pages to be the most entertaining.

Geoffrey saved zatara by opening the trap door and they head down to the basement to find parasite.

What we learned from this issue
-The guardian will appear in robinson's JLA
-Everyone loves Tellus because Tellus tells them to
-Robinson likes to piss off the LGBT community

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	04nbod 2009-07-30 03:56 pm UTC (link)
	The Guardian calls his troops ladies and the gay guy says he's offended by the suggestion he is effeminate. The Guardian says he doesn't give a damn. It was so unnecessary. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	aaron_bourque 2009-07-30 04:09 pm UTC (link)
	Isn't the Guardian essentially from WWII-era? . . . wouldn't he sort of have a different idea about gay people than our modern civilized sensibilities? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	04nbod 2009-07-30 04:18 pm UTC (link)
	he's a clone from a world war 2 hero. It went beyond that, It was like Robinson was saying 'fuck you Political correctness', then there was a perpetuation of military sterotypes regarding sexuality and of course the fact he called his people ladies in a derogatory manner. To top it off, its so random in the issue. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	aaron_bourque 2009-07-30 04:39 pm UTC (link)
	Well, hell. In a military context, "ladies," is practically a term of endearment, and the gay guy being offended may have been like a woman not wanting to be called honey, sweety, baby, sugar . . . Although "fuck you Political correctness" also has a certain appeal to me. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	khamelea 2009-07-30 08:27 pm UTC (link)
	You're not making a great case for it not being offensive! I mean, are you saying that it would be legitimate that "a woman not wanting to be called honey, sweety, baby, sugar" be dismissed out of hand? Because that's the only way I can see the comparison making sense, in this context. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	aaron_bourque 2009-07-31 01:40 am UTC (link)
	It could one of those cases where the user doesn't realize it can be interpreted as offensive. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	khamelea 2009-07-31 03:26 am UTC (link)
	That didn't came to mind because of the "explicitely expressing not giving a damn" part, but maybe I misunderstood how the sequence was explained. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	aaron_bourque 2009-07-31 06:33 am UTC (link)
	When you're met with a reaction you hadn't anticipated, you aren't always quick on the draw, even if you're a superhero. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	bariman1987 2009-07-30 09:51 pm UTC (link)
	Guardian was a WWII-era hero, but he never actually in the military or fought in the war. He was a cop in the Suicide Slum neighborhood of Metropolis who became a mystery man to take down criminals the cops couldn't or wouldn't touch. He was also the legal guardian of the Newsboy Legion, who would grow up to become genius geneticists, start Cadmus, and clone Guardian. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	angelophile 2009-07-30 04:51 pm UTC (link)
	"The gay guy says he's offended by the suggestion he is effeminate..." I don't see that's necessarily anti-LGBT. Plenty of gay men aren't effeminate and would be offended by someone claiming they were. Gay doesn't translate as un-masculine. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	shadeedge 2009-07-30 06:19 pm UTC (link)
	I don't think it's the gay guy's words that are being seen as anti-LGBT, but the Guardian's rejection of them. (Reply to this) (Parent)

ian_karkull
2009-07-30 07:52 pm UTC (link)

I don't get why he'd be offended by that in the first place. I'm sure he's used to plenty of harrassment from his superiors, and I keep calling dudes Ladies (and Ladies Dude for that matter) all the time and nobody, regardless if straight or gay, has ever been offended the least bit, ever.
If anything, this seems like a jab at speechifying, overly political correct people, and even then it's a strawman.

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	menagerie 2009-07-30 09:25 pm UTC (link)
	There's a difference between a character and the author. Not that I'd particularly like to read a homophobic character but I imagine they would exist. (Though, knowing the way most of these things go I would probably agree to the unnecessary part). (Reply to this) (Parent)

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