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gargoylekitty ([info]gargoylekitty) wrote in [info]scans_daily,
@ 2009-07-29 11:30:00

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Entry tags:char: black canary/dinah lance, char: wonder woman/diana of themyscira, creator: aaron lopresti, creator: gail simone, publisher: dc comics, title: wonder woman

Wonder Woman #34
Ready for a Wonder Woman and Black Canary team-up?


Starting off from after the preview, skipped a page there, we find Diana and Dinah getting ready to infiltrate (what is assumed to be) Roulette's underground meta-fights. In the process of getting ready we find that Dinah is truly a master of disguise.


Brilliant!
And so, one ride in the invisible jet later, they're ready to put their camo to the test.


And they're in!
Yes, there is some bit of goings on over on Themyscira of note and some dwelling on deeper things but overal it was a pretty fun issue despite(because of?) a bit of the old cage match storyline and, if the last page is any indication, the next issue should be pretty fierce.


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[info]gailsimone
2009-07-30 02:48 pm UTC (link)
How can you NOT bring Steve into it? That makes no sense. It's Diana Rockwell TREVOR. George brought Steve into it when he wrote the story.

This isn't making any sense, Bluefall. I get that you like the story. I like the story as well, on its own merits. But as a justification for Diana's outfit, it is way too arcane and complicated AND it makes the story about someone else, someone other than Diana. Diana's origin should be about herself and Hippolyta at its core, I feel.

Finally, there's something lovely about her costume representing the heavens, where both gods and Amazon princesses dwell, in my opinion. Since I have changed so little of what George set up, I think it's okay to carefully, carefully, add another possible explanation for the costume.

And I missed my stupid dogs every day while I was in SDCC, but when I come get 'Scuro from the kennel, every time, he reacts like it's the happiest day in the history of happy days. He comes running down the vet's hallway, nails scrabbling like crazy and dragging some poor assistant behind him on a leash, then he jumps and prances when he sees me like he can't BELIEVE I came back for him.

It's pretty cute. :)

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[info]bluefall
2009-07-30 03:04 pm UTC (link)
You don't have to bring Steve into it because there's no need to tell the whole story to explain anything. How does that not make sense? You contend that the costume is arcane and difficult to explain, because you have to tell this whole complicated story. But that's not true, because you don't have to tell the whole complicated story. All you have to say is "she wears it to honor an American woman who was a hero to the amazons." That's it. That's all. You don't even have to give her name. That's all the explanation that story, or the costume, requires. That's enough to satisfy any novice. And if it isn't, if they want to know more, you can hand them the trade. Really, I'd rather tell a hundred people why Diana's wearing that idiot bathing suit than try to explain why Supergirl has wings even once. o.O

Diana's origin should be about herself and Hippolyta at its core, I feel.

Hmm. Now this I can grok. I think there's room for more (obviously), but that strikes me as a pretty reasonable line to draw.

My dogs live with my parents, who went and moved to another state while I was in college. They climb into my mom's lap to sniff at the phone when I call her. It's somewhat comforting to know they miss me at least a little bit as much as I miss them.

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[info]gailsimone
2009-07-30 05:56 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, we're going to have to disagree on this, in the end. I think it's a lovely story on its own, but an unfortunate choice as an unwanted extension on the origin treehouse and a complete bitch to reference in-story. You say you don't need to include Steve but that makes no sense to me at all. If it wasn't an important connection, George wouldn't have gone out of his way to make it so clear that it's connected. It could have been any Amelia Earhart avatar, but the name Trevor pretty much ends this discussion, in my opinion.

And again, I think the 'bathing suit' discussion is ridiculous, but I've covered that many times previously. Nothing in the Trevor origin explains anything about how her uniform looks like a 'bathing suit (which it doesn't, anyway).'

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[info]bluefall
2009-07-31 12:24 am UTC (link)
Well, thanks for hearing me out, anyway. :)

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[info]gailsimone
2009-07-31 05:16 am UTC (link)
I'm listenin', you make some valid points. Nothing's been written yet.

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