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neuhallidae (neuhallidae) wrote in scans_daily,
@ 2009-07-23 13:53:00

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char: blink/clarice ferguson, char: polaris/lorna dane, creator: jeff parker, group: exiles, publisher: marvel comics, title: exiles

Nooooooo!
Per Jeff Parker, Exiles has been cancelled.

As for EXILES… well, as they say, you can’t save every patient. The best we did was a momentary blip with issue one of the relaunch, and sales went right back to where they were previously. In hindsight, maybe we should have waited a year or two before trying it. It was a blow to me, I was having a great time working with Salva Espin and Casey Jones, and felt I was getting into a good groove with issues that you’ll never see. At least Marvel did me a solid and gave me a double sized issue in 6 to wrap things up. Curious to see what you think of how it… choke… ends.

Well, ::stream of skulls:: There goes another book I was happily picking up.

For legality, have Black Panther being officially designated as the Spidey of the group by Lorna, from issue four.

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	savok 2009-07-23 06:21 pm UTC (link)
	Mother of fuck. Damn you Claremont, damn you to hell for this. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	Mod note angelophile 2009-07-23 06:41 pm UTC (link)
	As per our community ethos, please do not make personal attacks here. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: Mod note midnightvoyager 2009-07-23 06:49 pm UTC (link)
	...minor clarification: Can we still scream LIEEEEFEEEELD and LAAAAND in horror? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: Mod note angelophile 2009-07-23 07:03 pm UTC (link)
	Neither are personal attacks as I recognize them. Damning someone to hell, well, that certainly seems like one to me. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: Mod note okkult3000 2009-07-24 12:07 am UTC (link)
	One would imagine the offender must first possess the authority to damn someone to hell. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: Mod note angelophile 2009-07-24 09:24 am UTC (link)
	Well, if I tell someone to "fucking drop dead", I'd consider that to be a personal attack, even though I don't have the power to actually make it happen. I don't think insults are about literal power, when it comes down to it. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	xdoop 2009-07-23 08:22 pm UTC (link)
	Because Exiles was doing great in sales before Claremont came along, right? (Reply to this) (Parent)

	jlbarnett 2009-07-23 10:08 pm UTC (link)
	yeah, really it was Claremont's run that kind of attached a stigma to the name. Maybe they ought to try to outline with a different name. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	dimesfornickels.wordpress.com 2009-07-23 11:34 pm UTC (link)
	"Damn you Claremont, damn you to hell for this." Claremont wasn't responsible for the comic being canceled. That would be the fault of THE FANS for not buying it. Which is the truth for EVERY canceled series, quality or not. So instead of cursing creators and publishers for this sort of thing, maybe you should curse yourself or at least your fellow geeks. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	timemonkey 2009-07-24 04:22 am UTC (link)
	Not necessarily. If a writer/artist is so bad it drives peopel away from the book then it's their fault the sales drop and why people are less likely to come back to it. Sure, we're not buying but that's the proper response when given crap in exchange for our money and we can't be blamed for being hesitant to try again, assuming we even hear it's better now. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	jarodrussell 2009-07-23 06:37 pm UTC (link)
	I hope they collect this in a trade. I literally learned of this version of Exiles last week, and while I'm not normally an Exiles fan, a team with both Hank and Forge and Lorna (I like green hair) would have definitely found its way to my pull list. (Reply to this)

	bluefall 2009-07-23 06:38 pm UTC (link)
	... Well that sucks. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	colonel_green 2009-07-23 06:41 pm UTC (link)
	On the good news front, Parker confirms that Marvel is committed to trying to keep AoA around (the Agents vs. X-Men two-part mini being taken by some as a phase-out thing; apparently they're just trying to get more people to read it). (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	bluefall 2009-07-23 08:32 pm UTC (link)
	Hrm. Maybe we can get Casey Jones to draw it? Not that I have anything against Pagulyan, I'm just really going to miss Casey Jones. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	colonel_green 2009-07-23 06:39 pm UTC (link)
	Too bad. Much like the Excalibur property, this one has probably gone through so much in the last few years that it's exhausted for the near-future (and just when both were getting really good again). I'll enjoy the remainder of the series. (Reply to this)

	angelophile 2009-07-23 06:49 pm UTC (link)
	Can't say I'm surprised. Sales figures on Exiles were dwindling throughout its run and the second issue of the relaunched series saw a third of the readership drop off. Honestly, I'm surprised the concept's lasted as long as it has. Even if there hadn't been relaunches and the title had continued sliding as it was, it still would have been firmly in the cancellation zone. (Reply to this)

	goblinthebamf 2009-07-23 07:41 pm UTC (link)
	not surprised, when people can't afford titles set in the main DC/Marvel universes, they're not going to be buying titles set in alternate ones. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	liliaeth 2009-07-23 08:10 pm UTC (link)
	Considering how bad most titles set in the main Marvel Universe have been in the past two years, I'm actually more likely to buy au titles. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	goblinthebamf 2009-07-23 08:21 pm UTC (link)
	agreed, but S_D members are hardly representative of the overall readership. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	darklorelei 2009-07-23 08:35 pm UTC (link)
	Motto. I'm going to be bummed if AoA starts messing around with the universe at large more in their regular title. I haven't had a problem thusfar, but I just don't have enough of a Marvel background to stay interested. (All I know about Marvel I learnt from s_d and XTAS and whatever Spider-man cartoon they had running in the early 90s.) (Reply to this) (Parent)

	volksjager 2009-07-23 08:42 pm UTC (link)
	Maybe Marvel will replace it with ANOTHER Avengers book... (Reply to this) (Thread)

	ninjapeps 2009-07-23 11:17 pm UTC (link)
	don't be silly. they'll be replacing it with another Wolverine book. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	volksjager 2009-07-24 12:30 am UTC (link)
	Wolverine Team-up book ! (rolls eyes) (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	404glitch 2009-07-24 02:11 am UTC (link)
	Dark Exiles? (Reply to this) (Parent)

	timgueguen 2009-07-25 03:55 am UTC (link)
	Nah, Wolverine's Day Off will be the new comic. It will deal with the quieter, calmer side of Wolverine's life, such as doing his laundry and shopping for beer. And it will of course debute in the top ten. (Reply to this) (Parent)

ian_karkull
2009-07-23 08:57 pm UTC (link)

Good. The book was getting more interesting, but I agree with Parker. They really should have let it rest for at least a year, so that everybody could pretend the Claremont run never happened.
I'm sure it'll get picked up again. Alternate Universes are far too tempting a concept to be ignored forever. Who knows, maybe a future writer might even discover one that is not about mutants all the goddamn time.

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	seawolf10 2009-07-23 09:07 pm UTC (link)
	incoherent swearing Damn, you'd think they'd let the title get at least a year's worth of issues under its belt before canceling it. Man, this was well-written and entertaining. Something noticeably lacking in Marvel's main line. (Reply to this)

	mugiwara 2009-07-23 09:25 pm UTC (link)
	I hope it will come back in 5 or 6 years. Perhaps with more attention given to the alternate realities, this time. Now what I want to know is what will be Salvador Espin's next work! His art blew me up! (Reply to this)

	stolisomancer 2009-07-23 09:57 pm UTC (link)
	Eh, they've got the concept firmly in place. It's something that can be played with again by future writers and eventually brought back. Parker did a good job with what he had. (Reply to this)

	scottyquick 2009-07-23 10:21 pm UTC (link)
	I think this is why I like DC more then Marvel. DC gives titles a frigging chance, Marvel? You've got 6-12 issues to prove it or lose it. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	stolisomancer 2009-07-23 10:25 pm UTC (link)
	Oh, come on now. There are a lot of borderline titles at Marvel that they supported through several different volumes and print runs despite lukewarm to actively bad sales, like She-Hulk, Spider-Girl, and Runaways. DC's done its share of rapid cancellations, too; I liked Bloodhound a few years ago, and there was Hard Time and the abruptly truncated Bad Girls. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

scottyquick
2009-07-23 10:38 pm UTC (link)

She-Hulk? When did that sell badly? I always thought it sold 20k+.

Spider-Girl, I always thought they were JUST barely making a profit on it, although I'll agree that if it were most other titles it would have been canceled.

Runaways sells excellently in digest, which is why it didn't get canceled.

I've never heard of those series though, so maybe you're right.

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	angelophile 2009-07-23 10:58 pm UTC (link)
	Being part of Time Warner also means that their profit margins are greater, or something, so they're able to continue producing books that sell numbers that the wholly independent Marvel will cancel. That's the way I've always understood it, anyway. (Reply to this) (Parent)

stolisomancer
2009-07-23 11:58 pm UTC (link)

She-Hulk sold poorly enough in its original run under Slott that, while it was critically lauded, it was close to cancellation until the decision was made to relaunch it.

Spider-Girl benefited heavily from several different letter-writing campaigns to save the book, but never found an audience that was quite large enough to justify continuing to put the book out.

I'd also point out that Marvel has done its best in recent memory to attach its new series to some manner of crossover or big event, so at least they start strong. If they don't continue as such, which they don't seem to do unless a given book is visibly attached to one of the big franchises, they pull the plug. A business cannot be faulted for acting to perpetuate itself.

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	retro_nouveau 2009-07-23 10:34 pm UTC (link)
	Set, Horus, Ishtar and Thoth! There goes the only Marvel on my pull list. Not because I don't want to load up with 10 Marvels every week, just that life is all about choices and bouncing around the multiverse is one of my favorite things in the known time-space continuum. (Reply to this)