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Amazing Spider-Man Annual #36: What's wrong with Pete's memories?

For the record, I can't take credit for noticing this--Zarius on the SpidermanCrawlSpace messageboard found it.

In the latest ASM Annual, there's a scene where some new character wants revenge on 'Ben Reilly' for killing his family. Ben's name brings back memories to Pete, and we get this montage of poorly scanned panels and covers from the Clone Saga. Here's one of them:



Here's the source, from Spider-Man: The Lost Years #2...





So in other words...when Pete thinks he's remembering him and MJ, he's in fact remembering Ben Reilly and Janine.

Hardly the end of the world, but at the same time, I don't see how anyone could look at the original issue (and they had to to get the pic) and think that they're Pete and MJ. Unless they just skimmed through all the Clone Saga issues and just pasted on the pictures that seemed appropriate, which is what they were probably doing.

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From:[info]blake_reitz
Date:July 9th, 2009 08:20 pm (UTC)
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Maybe current Pete is Ben, put in his place as some sort of demonic catch in his bargain with the devil?
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From:[info]foxhack
Date:July 9th, 2009 08:27 pm (UTC)
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.............

Good lord. That makes SENSE.
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From:[info]blake_reitz
Date:July 10th, 2009 04:42 am (UTC)
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I was just being silly, but now I can't make it not make sense! Noooo!
From:[info]schala_kid
Date:July 9th, 2009 08:36 pm (UTC)
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That's actually something I would accept.
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From:[info]neuhallidae
Date:July 9th, 2009 08:39 pm (UTC)
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Holy crap. I could totally buy that.
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From:[info]kitty_tc_69
Date:July 9th, 2009 08:45 pm (UTC)
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Anything that turns OMD/BND into a swerve, I'm all for it. I'll even take back all the nasty things I've thought and said about the current marvel regime.

Because if this was all a plot to fool us "smart marks" and get genuine heat from us, to set up the payoff of setting everything right... then it's more than just ok. It's fucking brilliant. Genius, even.

I'm still not ready to get my hopes up, though.
From:[info]vignettelante
Date:July 9th, 2009 09:12 pm (UTC)
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Oh, no, wait, I get it!

Quesada erased his own memories to get Loeb--who was closing in on him--off his back, and after a complicated plot including OMD and making Tony a jerk, which gets Quesada in Loeb's good graces, will finally touch the first issue of Ultimate Spider-Man, restoring his true memories and personality, putting him in position to blacklist Loeb forever, and allowing him to create his ideal world where Squirrel Girl has her own series and no one gets cheaply brought back from the dead.

"Just as planned."

(I have no idea if this makes any sense, but Loeb was the first name that came to mind.)
From:[info]ninjapeps
Date:July 9th, 2009 11:26 pm (UTC)
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"Just as planned."

Joe Q is Light Yagami?
From:[info]timgueguen
Date:July 10th, 2009 04:33 am (UTC)
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Seems to me if he's any manga character it's more likely to be Tatewaki Kuno.
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From:[info]marsdejahthoris
Date:July 10th, 2009 06:11 pm (UTC)
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Thank you, I just snorted a pretzel shard...
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From:[info]scottyquick
Date:July 9th, 2009 09:02 pm (UTC)
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Hey, what did we say about coming up with good ideas?
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From:[info]blake_reitz
Date:July 10th, 2009 04:39 am (UTC)
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*sign*...I'll go sit in the corner.
From:[info]moneyless_jew
Date:July 9th, 2009 10:11 pm (UTC)
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I don't get it.
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From:[info]aaron_bourque
Date:July 9th, 2009 10:48 pm (UTC)
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Consider: for a time, Marvel was trying to get the audience to believe that the "real" Peter Parker was Ben Reilly, and that the Pete we'd been reading about since at least 1976 (I think) was really the clone.
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From:[info]tavella
Date:July 9th, 2009 10:52 pm (UTC)
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It's an amusing thought, but most likely they were just being sloppy and indifferent as usual. "Redhead? Vaguely-Peter looking thing? Slap it in there!"
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From:[info]blake_reitz
Date:July 10th, 2009 04:41 am (UTC)
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Sad, but probably true. The firs time I scanned over it, I even mistook the "HEY" for "MJ!" But that's a pretty confusing font.
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From:[info]taggerung301
Date:July 9th, 2009 11:19 pm (UTC)
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that would be some brilliant writing
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From:[info]jlroberson
Date:July 9th, 2009 09:27 pm (UTC)
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The hair is TOO BIG...
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From:[info]neuhallidae
Date:July 9th, 2009 09:31 pm (UTC)
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What the hell is up with Ben's shoes in that last panel? He looks like he's got Transformer feet.
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From:[info]aaron_bourque
Date:July 9th, 2009 10:48 pm (UTC)
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He's wearing boots. To keep out the cold.
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From:[info]neuhallidae
Date:July 9th, 2009 11:53 pm (UTC)
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I've worn boots before, and they didn't look like they were blocks made of metal, even the ones with steel toes.
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From:[info]greenmask
Date:July 9th, 2009 11:57 pm (UTC)
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..Skiing boots?
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From:[info]neuhallidae
Date:July 10th, 2009 12:27 am (UTC)
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Ooh, there's a thought. I guess if people'd wear Uggs, they'd wear skiing boots with no skis.
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From:[info]greenmask
Date:July 10th, 2009 12:30 am (UTC)
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If they are a NUTTER. Those things hurt!

But, Clone-of-Parker.

Nutter, surely?
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From:[info]heat16
Date:July 9th, 2009 09:32 pm (UTC)
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Does Ben look like a young Kelsey Grammar to anyone else?
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From:[info]jlroberson
Date:July 9th, 2009 11:41 pm (UTC)
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I was thinking Michael Bolton.
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From:[info]captain_clown
Date:July 9th, 2009 10:01 pm (UTC)
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When I saw 'What's wrong with Pete's memories' I immediately thought of the whole pedo thing.

Which I guess puts this into perspective.
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From:[info]sandoz_iscariot
Date:July 9th, 2009 10:43 pm (UTC)
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Hairrrrr.

Yeah, my guess is lazy copy/pasting.
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From:[info]felinephoenix
Date:July 10th, 2009 01:44 pm (UTC)
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He can´t be Spider-Man so he´s The Amazing Mullet-Man.
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From:[info]ar_feiniel_
Date:July 10th, 2009 06:54 am (UTC)
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You know, I'm actually going to go out on a limb here and have some faith that Marvel didn't just skim nineties comics looking for Peter/MJ panels. Someone might be onto something here....
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From:[info]felinephoenix
Date:July 10th, 2009 01:41 pm (UTC)
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Man, I miss Janine/Elizabeth. Even though I didn´t really care for the way she and Ben automatically fell in love here.

But awww, well there goes my hope that they were bringing her back on purpose. What? If ASM wanted to do an arc about the Reillys, why not have Pete discover more about his brother while Aunt May learns more about her family? Heck, you could even do an interesting reversal of the Clone Saga... if MC2´s anything to go by, Ben was going to be a father too (or already was depending on how old you think Darkdevil is), he just didn´t know it.

Ohhhhh wait I´m expecting new and interesting things from ASM. My bad.
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From:[info]ashtoreth
Date:July 12th, 2009 07:17 am (UTC)
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A perusal of the page in question seems to indicate it was a montage of Ben Reilly images. None of them were Peter Parker or were meant to be.
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From:[info]cyberghostface
Date:July 12th, 2009 03:58 pm (UTC)
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So how does Ben walking with his girlfriend translate to upending Peter's life with MJ? Wasn't Ben more or less keeping to himself at this point?
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