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Doop (xdoop) wrote in scans_daily,
@ 2009-06-27 13:33:00

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char: magneto/erik magnus lehnsherr, char: red skull/johann schmidt, creator: kieron dwyer, creator: mark gruenwald, creator: ron lim, event: acts of vengeance, publisher: marvel comics, title: captain america

Magneto vs. the Red Skull!

This is from Captain America #366 and #367. Both issues are written by Mark Gruenwald; Ron Lim illustrated #366 and Kieron Dwyer illustrated #367 .

Magneto encounters and destroys a giant robot left by the Skull.

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	daningram 2009-06-27 01:42 pm UTC (link)
	I can't think of anyone who deserves it more. Go Magneto! Also, I like how they slyly absolve/don't implicate Red Skull in the real world Nazi crimes. These days, I bet writers like Millar would blame all kinds of real world evil on Red Skull, which I always found to be tasteless and lazy. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	lonewolf23k 2009-06-27 01:48 pm UTC (link)
	Agreed. But in this case, it's mostly because the Nazis made the Red Skull, rather then the other way around. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	drsevarius 2009-06-27 01:49 pm UTC (link)
	What do you mean? Magneto says that the Red Skull wasn't personally responsible for the death of his family, but he served Hitler and committed countless atrocities. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	sir_razorback 2009-06-27 02:05 pm UTC (link)
	I think what he meant is that Skull isn't tied to any specific real-world, historical events here. It's just kept very general, which is enough for Magneto. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	joysweeper 2009-06-27 01:56 pm UTC (link)
	Damn. You do not piss off Magneto. Having him as an enemy is one thing, even if he strongly dislikes you. But if he out-and-out hates you... Wow. Thanks for posting this. I know it was somewhere on old s_d, but I didn't know the title. (Reply to this) (Thread)

The Encounter
(Anonymous)
2009-09-02 05:41 am UTC (link)

I liked the chemistry between Magneto and Red Skull and how it ties to the Holocaust and World War 2. It's such a shame that they didn't build up on the rivalry between these two after "The Acts Of Vengaence". You would think that after the Skull survived that he would want to get payback on Magneto for imprisoning him and I am sure that Magneto would have made another attempt to kill him seeing as how he survived his first one.
Plus, I would love to see what Magneto thinks about Norman Osborn's rise to power and that whole Dark X-Men sticht.

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	the_eleven 2009-06-27 02:06 pm UTC (link)
	These two issues were awesome! Thanks for the post, it's been awhile since I dug these out ^^ (Reply to this)

	crinosg 2009-06-27 02:56 pm UTC (link)
	Aww, you left out the part where the Controller shows up out of nowhere trying to attack Magneto and he gets his clunky blue ass handed to him. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	xdoop 2009-06-27 04:07 pm UTC (link)
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	ashtoreth 2009-06-27 03:00 pm UTC (link)
	Reminds me of that short story in a recent anthology book, where Magneto kills a nazi mutant, just because he used to be SS. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	fredneil.livejournal.com 2009-06-28 01:02 am UTC (link)
	"Just because?" Sounds like a good enough reason to me. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	ulf_boehnke 2009-06-27 03:11 pm UTC (link)
	"Only evil people kill. Good people torture." (Reply to this) (Thread)

	qob 2009-06-28 09:31 am UTC (link)
	Ahh yes! the unescapable death trap! (Reply to this) (Parent)

	thehefner 2009-06-27 03:29 pm UTC (link)
	Badass. I seriously need to read the Gruenwald run of CAP. Would that it would be collected. I guess I'll need to track down the back issues. Also, just how awesome is Kieron Dwyer? Between this and the Batman/Riddler story, DARK KNIGHT/DARK CITY, he's one of the few artists who did amazing work even when printing and coloring techniques were at their shittiest. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	icon_uk 2009-06-27 03:32 pm UTC (link)
	The Gruenwald run has so many great moment in it, from Steve's career as a cartoonist, to the Serpent Society, to Steve and Rachel's wonderful first date, where they have the least likely guardian angels imaginable. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	thehefner 2009-06-27 03:49 pm UTC (link)
	While I've been trying to stick strictly to trade paperbacks, I may actually have to scour the back issue bins for this run. Especially since I keep running into people who think Cap is a lame character. I'm a DC boy and all, but this continued misconception shall not stand. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	aaron_bourque 2009-06-27 07:48 pm UTC (link)
	Cap transcends corporate loyalties. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	milleniumrex 2009-06-27 05:20 pm UTC (link)
	And this is why Magneto remains the preeminent Badass of the MU. If they'd listened to him a while back, Norman Osborn might not be sicking goon squads on everyone now. (Reply to this)

	volksjager 2009-06-27 05:54 pm UTC (link)
	And he sits there til Crossbones finds him ? This was a good section/run of Cap as I recall. (Reply to this)

	silverzeo 2009-06-27 06:37 pm UTC (link)
	Wait... if Magento hates the Nazis so much, why hasn't try to kill off all those who worked for those SOBs rather than picking a fight in San Fran and leave? (Reply to this) (Thread)

	xdoop 2009-06-27 08:14 pm UTC (link)
	He was actually a Nazi hunter before he became Magneto. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	majingojira 2009-06-27 07:25 pm UTC (link)
	Magneto yelling "The Devil with that, Nazi Scum!" is one of my favorite damn panels ever. (Reply to this)

fredneil.livejournal.com
2009-06-28 01:16 am UTC (link)

If all he left the Red Skull was water, what was Magneto's plan? To let him starve to death or to release him after a relatively short time? Making the Red Skull suffer before killing him is pretty reasonable. After all, he is the Red Skull. But making him suffer before releasing him is just going to make him mad, especially since he's probably going to be wearing ten gallons of urine when he's released. (Magneto did magnetize the fly on the Red Skull's pants so he can't get them off and relieve himself in the corner, right?)

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	blunderbuss 2009-06-28 02:08 am UTC (link)
	To leave him there forever, basically. >:) (Reply to this) (Parent)

	rzerox21xx 2009-06-28 08:33 am UTC (link)
	In the third page, bottom panel when Magneto makes his entrance, look at the size of that package!!! I AM MAGNETO, BEHOLD MY MAGNETIC CROTCH!! (Reply to this)

	salamangkiero 2009-06-29 05:28 am UTC (link)
	Wow. No-kill, but willingly agrees to slow death. The irony is proper. and yes. Behold, the Magneto Crotch! (Reply to this) (Thread)

	rzerox21xx 2009-06-29 08:13 am UTC (link)
	in the Magento Crotch entrance, notice Red Skull face, he's like, must not look directly at it!!! (Reply to this) (Parent)

	btravage.livejournal.com 2009-08-01 10:16 pm UTC (link)
	They say "subversive" like it's a bad thing. (Reply to this)