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perletwo (perletwo) wrote in scans_daily,
@ 2009-03-08 13:00:00

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char: robin/nightwing/dick grayson, char: starfire/koriand'r, creator: joe benitez, creator: mark waid, publisher: dc comics, title: 52

The best explanation of Kory/Dick 'ship I've ever seen.
A single panel from the two-page "Origin of Starfire" backup in 52 Week 41.

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icon_uk
2009-03-08 12:16 pm UTC (link)

See, that's cute, but missing the point to me. Kory's primary character trait wasn't being bombastic (Where on earth did they get "high-sounding; high-flown; inflated; pretentious" from Kory???) or intimidating, it was in her complete and utter emotional honesty.

Back before they met, Dick was seriously uptight, he was reaching a point where he wanted a life of his own, but was too tied to being Robin as in "Batman and Robin" for that to be easy, and he felt guilty for wanting that.

Ultimately it was Kory's completely uninhibited nature which helped him see it really WAS okay to have and express feelings, including resentment of the being in Bruce's shadow, and that helped him mature to the point where he no longer needed to be Robin, and indeed, couldn't be.

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sistermagpie
2009-03-08 12:33 pm UTC (link)

Yeah, it's funny that this kind of implies that she was more like Batman when really she was not like him in ways that Dick also wasn't by nature? He couldn't very well "find himself" as his own man with yet another Batman to intimidate him. As an adult it seems like that comes up a lot. If I was thinking of a girlfriend he had that was more like a female Bruce I'd say it was Barbara.

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freddylloyd
2009-03-08 01:49 pm UTC (link)

Kory shares some traits with Bruce: great power, utter commitment, loss of family. But she also showed Dick that those qualities don't mean you have to shut yourself down emotionally.

As I recall, Marv Wolfman and/or George Pérez has said that one reason Kory is immediately attracted to Dick in The New Teen Titans is the bare legs. She can see that in some ways he's already open and not easily intimidated.

Plus, of course, there's the sex factor. They were both around twenty years old when they became an item, and the two sexiest people on the planet.

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bluefall
2009-03-08 02:14 pm UTC (link)

If I was thinking of a girlfriend he had that was more like a female Bruce I'd say it was Barbara.

Absolutely. I always found that scene hilarious in Nightwing-Huntress, where Babs is telling Dick "I get that she reminds you of -- I get that she feels familiar," like Dick sleeping with Hel was some Oedipal thing... when Helena is pretty much nothing like Bruce and Babs is a few smiles a year shy of his clone.

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	sistermagpie 2009-03-08 02:51 pm UTC (link)
	LOL! Totally! Especially since I can somehow also imagine Bruce trying to write off a hook up of Dick's that disturbed him in a way that seemed to say more about him than Dick. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	icon_uk 2009-03-08 08:05 pm UTC (link)
	Except that at the time, Robin WASN'T in the Batverse per se. He wasn't working with Batman regularly, he was having solo superhero adventures at Hudson University until he dropped out (just prior to NTT#1), and the Titans was his real home. Limiting Dick Grayson to the Batverse always seems to miss the point of his outgrowing the role of Robin. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	ratmel 2009-03-08 12:36 pm UTC (link)
	See, I just can't read that any way but slashy. Anyone know which writer it was? (Reply to this) (Thread)

	scottyquick 2009-03-08 04:41 pm UTC (link)
	I thought all four of the guys wrote every issue together? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	perletwo 2009-03-08 06:14 pm UTC (link)
	For the Origin of Starfire two-pager the credits read Mark Waid writer, Joe Benitez artist. The credits for the main story have all four writers' names. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)