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Doop (xdoop) wrote in scans_daily,
@ 2009-05-21 10:08:00

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char: j. jonah jameson sr., char: may parker, char: spider-man/peter parker, creator: mark waid, creator: mike mckone, publisher: marvel comics, title: amazing spider-man

Amazing Spider-Man #594

While Spidey is battling the new Vulture at New Yankee Stadium, he bumps into Norman. Later...

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Here's how I see this going:

box_in_the_box
2009-05-21 10:52 am UTC (link)

May and Jay are set to have their wedding in #600, but since May not being lonely would remove her and Peter that much more from the angst of Ben's death, I see Otto trying to break up the wedding, and in the ensuing struggle between Otto and Spidey, Jay accidentally gets killed. Otto might actually feel bad (he does seem to genuinely care for May by now, after all), but Peter DEFINITELY will feel bad, because Jonah will blame Spidey for Jay's death, thus renewing his hate-on for Spidey, and so will May, thus leading to a whole NEW reason for Peter to feel guilty, as well as a new justification for why Peter can't tell May that he's Spidey.

I'll be genuinely impressed with the creative team if they don't go down this road, but I'm pretty sure they will, because they realize that they need ZOMG EVAN MOAR EXTREEEM justifications to preserve Peter's status quo.

And the fact that the city turned on Spidey over a BASEBALL GAME? LAME. That's AL BUNDY-level misfortune contrivance.

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	Re: Here's how I see this going: greenmask 2009-05-21 12:03 pm UTC (link)
	Wait, wait, wait. May is back to not knowing? ??? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	box_in_the_box 2009-05-21 12:04 pm UTC (link)
	Um, yes. Ever since "Brand New Day." EVERYONE is back to not knowing - except, only just recently, for the FF and the NuAvengers. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

seriousfic
2009-05-21 12:13 pm UTC (link)

Even Mary-Jane? What did Mephisto give her Down's Syndrome? No way two people are living together for anywhere near as long as the Spider-marriage and MJ never figures it out.

And what kind of dick tells his workplace acquaintances about a huge, life-altering secret before he tells his loved ones? Really, what's the point of making The Secret a big deal again if you're going to tell it to comparative goobers like the FF and the Avengers?

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sandoz_iscariot
2009-05-21 12:36 pm UTC (link)

And what kind of dick tells his workplace acquaintances about a huge, life-altering secret before he tells his loved ones?

I can easily believe BND Spidey is that big of a dick. The last time MJ appeared in Amazing it was hinted that she still knew, but the current status quo is that Mockingbird knows Peter's secret ID and Aunt May doesn't, and that's ridiculously stupid.

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	seriousfic 2009-05-21 12:38 pm UTC (link)
	It's been over a year since OMD. How can they still be "hinting" at the status quo? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	sandoz_iscariot 2009-05-21 01:09 pm UTC (link)
	Because BND is that poorly thought out. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	seriousfic 2009-05-21 01:25 pm UTC (link)
	That's an insult to poorly thought out. Not knowing who knows who's secret identity is like poorly thought out after you hit poorly thought out in the head with a hammer. That is, like, the FIRST THING you should get settled! (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	box_in_the_box 2009-05-21 01:40 pm UTC (link)
	Guess what? They've said since then that the character's past continuity has changed in ways that they haven't even hinted at yet, and they won't be addressing that until 2010. Yeah. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

seriousfic
2009-05-21 01:46 pm UTC (link)

You know, they could've saved everyone so much trouble by sending Peter and MJ back to Portland and saying Ben Reilly was the new Spider-Man. Hell, you could even have him take Peter Parker's place and work at the Bugle, calling himself Peter Parker. And it'd make sense, because why would Peter risk his life when he has a newly-recovered child to care for? Plus, it would get him out from under the microscope of being unmasked. Just do a little double Spider-Man action and people start to think Peter's unmasking was a hoax. Then you could portray Ben however you wanted and no one would care!

That's right, I'm actually yearning for the Clone Saga at this point.

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	box_in_the_box 2009-05-21 01:48 pm UTC (link)
	Here's the other thing: Wacker and Brevoort have REPEATEDLY said how much they want to bring back Ben Reilly, who has been getting a LOT of publicity lately, including an upcoming comic which promises to "reveal the TRUE story of what happened during the Clone Saga!" (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	seriousfic 2009-05-21 01:49 pm UTC (link)
	Well, what's the most insulting, unoriginal, and derivative thing they can do with the character? Yeah, he'll be a villain. Probably brain-washed by Norman. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

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	interrobamf 2009-05-21 12:37 pm UTC (link)
	Mary Jane knows. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

box_in_the_box
2009-05-21 01:33 pm UTC (link)

Well, yes, it's hinted with all the subtlety of a sledgehammer that Mary Jane knows, but until the FF and the NuAvengers, Marvel editorial has REPEATEDLY stated that NO ONE knows, so ... yeah.

Then again, Marvel editorial had also insisted, to the point of INSULTING any readers who suggested otherwise, that NOTHING else but the marriage has changed, which would mean that Mary Jane got PREGNANT OUT OF WEDLOCK, and when Tom Brevoort was asked about this, his response was to insult the person asking the question, WITHOUT ANSWERING the question.

Of course, NOW, AFTER all of that, Quesada has said, "Oh, yeah, ONE OTHER thing DID change, and you'll find out what it was NEXT YEAR."

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	cyberghostface 2009-05-21 02:50 pm UTC (link)
	...and when Tom Brevoort was asked about this, his response was to insult the person asking the question, WITHOUT ANSWERING the question. What did he say? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	box_in_the_box 2009-05-21 03:01 pm UTC (link)
	Something to the effect of, "We've said, over and over again, that nothing else has changed, but if you want to put on your tinfoil hat, then whatever." It was a comment that could have been written without even READING the actual question. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	interrobamf 2009-05-21 02:52 pm UTC (link)
	I've found proclamations about plot content from editorial to be generally worthless. All that actually counts is what's in the book. And, well, in this case so far, it's pretty horrible by itself, what with not explaining shit for nearly a year. Even DC's One Year Later stories didn't stretch it out this long. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	interrobamf 2009-05-21 02:55 pm UTC (link)
	Oh, sorry. It's not "nearly a year". It's "nearly a year and half". (Reply to this) (Parent)

	greenmask 2009-05-21 01:00 pm UTC (link)
	I thought it was just the public.. Golly. Again. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	box_in_the_box 2009-05-21 01:01 pm UTC (link)
	Even NORMAN and VENOM don't know. Yeah. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	neuhallidae 2009-05-21 03:18 pm UTC (link)
	Venom doesn't know and in...just Gagan, or even the symbiote part doesn't know? Because I patently refuse to believe the latter. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	box_in_the_box 2009-05-21 04:02 pm UTC (link)
	Not even the SYMBIOTE. Marvel FLAT-OUT STATED, in the first issue of BND, that EVERYONE forgot. And when Venom and Brock met Spider-Man, NEITHER remembered. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	neuhallidae 2009-05-21 04:13 pm UTC (link)
	I confess, I'd quit reading by the end of OMD, so I'd totally missed that. Augh, augh, God, that's bad. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	tavella 2009-05-21 05:03 pm UTC (link)
	You gotta love the symbiote merged with him for months and somehow didn't notice he was Peter Parker! (Reply to this) (Parent)

	Re: Here's how I see this going: sandoz_iscariot 2009-05-21 12:09 pm UTC (link)
	Oh god, why must that all sound so likely? (Reply to this) (Parent)

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