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arbre_rieur ([info]arbre_rieur) wrote in [info]scans_daily,
@ 2009-04-15 23:10:00

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Entry tags:title: fables

Beast vs. the Big Bad Wolf (Fables #83)
One's the former sheriff of Fabletown. The other's his replacement in the new (well, not so new by this point) liberal administration. In this issue, they come to physical blows.

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[info]daningram
2009-04-16 09:08 pm UTC (link)
Uhh, what?

Interogating and keeping prisoners in solitary is pretty much SOP for law enforcement. And with Fabletown, given their decidingly limited resources, was pretty much required.

I really think people are taking Bigby's Israel comment in 50 and trying to apply it retroactively to the entire series and that really don't work. Really, what he meant was 'Hit us and we'll hit you back harder and smarter'. 'Cause I really don't see Israel granting Hitler clemency anytime soon.

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[info]besamim
2009-04-16 09:39 pm UTC (link)
Well said. There's occasional overtly political content in Fables, but the only two scenes that really stood out that way to me were the aforementioned Israel analogy and an earlier issue (don't recall which) where Snow comes out against abortion, though privately, to her physician. Otherwise yeah, I don't see the series as a conservative manifesto in the way that much of Ditko's work is an objectivist manifesto or V for Vendetta an anarchist manifesto. The latter, as with much of Moore's other work, is far more blatantly political than Fables, the three Sandman Presents Willingham did, and that series with the chimp detective put together. Same with Grant Morrison, Jaime Delano and a number of other leading comic writers I could name.

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[info]ashtoreth
2009-04-17 01:52 am UTC (link)
The other abortion thing was that apparently the Black Forest Witch has been financing abortion clinics, and that counts for her power need to sacrifice babies.

However, this excerpt up top is pretty lackluster IMHO, and so was the bits of Mr. Dark that were posted. So unless these are just the bad parts, I'm guessing that the series is past it's best days.

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[info]ghosty732
2009-04-16 09:56 pm UTC (link)
Exactly. Other than the Israel rant, I find every other scenario that people suggest is "Bill Willingham's conservative agenda" to have organic reasons behind them that make sense to the plot and the character and are, in my mind, compelling.


It's just unfortunate that people really do seem to take that one comment and try to apply it retoractively to the entire series. And it's unfortunate that people do that and look at that DC Decisions issue and dub him as "That Crazy Conservative Writer who always puts his values into all his work" when, if you look at the majority of his work, that just isn't the case.

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