Daily Scans - Call for Volunteers: Tag Wranglers
April 10th, 2009
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Call for Volunteers: Tag Wranglers
[info]sir_razorback has been helping us maintain the tags but there have been some, er... absolutely mangled posts. We're looking for one or two volunteers to help out with this most thankless of tasks: tag wrangling. We're looking for an ongoing commitment, but if at any time you're bored of wrangling, let us know and we'll sell you back your soul.

What: fix mistagged posts, identify tags for deletion and renaming
When: while you browse the comm
Reward: our undying gratitude

* Obviously we still expect you (the comm at large) to tag your own posts, and to help out with untagged posts when the urge strikes.

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From:[info]bluefall
Date:April 10th, 2009 07:18 pm (UTC)
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Um. Do we have sufficient tagging convention at this point to begin seriously tag wrangling? There still seems to be a lot of dissension in the ranks about things like whether or not numerals are called for with any given title, who qualifies as a Batman, how many identities need to be identified, who's a Cass and who's a Cassandra, what categories should be called (is the JLA a group or team, and is it the JLA, the Justice League, or the Justice League of America? What about the JLI?), whether categories are needed for everything ("in-joke" and the like), and whether we can still be fun and freewheeling like we were back in the good old days of "ocelots don't work that way."
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From:[info]schmevil
Date:April 10th, 2009 07:30 pm (UTC)
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Of course you can have "ocelots don't work that way" tags. But we can't have sixteen different tags for one character. Which we actually DO have right now. Roman numerals are still a go, and we'll work out the hinky ones on a case by case basis. I'm not interested in writing a rule book for tagging Batmans, because at the end of the day, I can just rename the misfires, and we have to let some things go. I don't want to bury the comm in rules.

Step one will be cleaning up the mess that we've made in what, two months?

Step two will be making things a bit clearer. But in all honesty, I don't expect the tags to ever be perfectly organized.
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From:[info]schmevil
Date:April 10th, 2009 07:34 pm (UTC)
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And I should add that part of being a tag wrangler would be helping to make those decisions about the suitability and usefulness of tags and tag categories.
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From:[info]bluefall
Date:April 10th, 2009 07:53 pm (UTC)
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Fair enough. I'll pitch in, then, if y'like, though fair warning, I'm about ten times more useful with DC than Marvel.
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From:[info]schmevil
Date:April 10th, 2009 08:03 pm (UTC)
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Sweet. Can you email us at dailyscans[at]gmail[dot]com so we have a contact address? Once I have a list I'll send out an intro email.
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From:[info]mysteryfan
Date:April 10th, 2009 08:39 pm (UTC)
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LOL. Batman(s). Always the problem.
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From:[info]schmevil
Date:April 10th, 2009 07:31 pm (UTC)
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Don't 'um' me missy! *shakes cane at you* Also, get off my lawn.
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From:[info]bluefall
Date:April 10th, 2009 07:35 pm (UTC)
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See, this is why I don't normally tell people my actual age.

You old bat.
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From:[info]foxhack
Date:April 10th, 2009 07:19 pm (UTC)
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I guess I can help.
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From:[info]schmevil
Date:April 10th, 2009 07:39 pm (UTC)
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Awesome!
From:[info]cosmos666
Date:April 10th, 2009 07:42 pm (UTC)
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I'm a lurker here, but the tagging system is driving me nuts. I can help, primarilly at weekends.

Cosmos
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From:[info]schmevil
Date:April 10th, 2009 08:03 pm (UTC)
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It's driving me crazy too. -_- Thanks for pitching in! Can you email us at dailyscans[at]gmail[dot]com so we have a contact address? Once I have a list I'll send out an intro email.
From:[info]sd_mouser
Date:April 10th, 2009 08:14 pm (UTC)
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LJ has a limitation of 1000 tags - does IJ have a similar limitation?


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From:[info]bariman1987
Date:April 10th, 2009 11:45 pm (UTC)
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As far as I know, it doesn't. The LJ tag limit was imposed due to server slowdown or something like that, which isn't a problem with IJ.
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From:[info]schmevil
Date:April 11th, 2009 03:12 pm (UTC)
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Yeah, you're right.
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From:[info]filbypott
Date:April 10th, 2009 08:23 pm (UTC)
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Can we take this opportunity to get rid of the char: creator: title: etc: thing? It's kind of needlessly complicated and makes searching more difficult IMO.
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From:[info]foxhack
Date:April 10th, 2009 08:26 pm (UTC)
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... But it makes finding stuff easier. What problems is this new system giving you? o_O
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From:[info]parsimonia
Date:April 10th, 2009 09:10 pm (UTC)
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It can get annoying typing it in, but it does make it easier for searching for the actual Batman comic, without having to wade through every post that features Batman.
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From:[info]tanetris
Date:April 10th, 2009 10:06 pm (UTC)
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I actually like the char:, creator:, title:, etc. What I don't like is the Civilian Name/Costume I/One-Shot Alias IV/Eventually Takes Up Whatever Mantle MCCCXXXVII

Not only is it needlessly long, but they'll eventually wind up outdating themselves, as once someone gets a new title, either we ignore it for purposes of tagging, the old posts sit unlinked from the new ones, or someone goes back and updates all the old tags (which is going to get daunting for the more prolific characters if it isn't already)
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From:[info]ashtoreth
Date:April 11th, 2009 12:25 am (UTC)
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Doesn't help when so and so decides to take up a new identity for a short while, yes..But people looking for all Hal Jordan posts should see the posts that include him as the Spectre, fer instance. Whereas people looking for Green Lantern/Hal Jordan really don't want to.
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From:[info]tanetris
Date:April 11th, 2009 08:18 am (UTC)
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Someone (wish I could remember who. Credit where credit is due and all that) had proposed the solution in a previous mod post to simply separate civilian names and costume names where it made sense to do so. So, to use your example, we'd have "char:Green Lantern" to search for GLs (be it Hal, Kyle, Guy, John, whoever as long as they have a green ring at the time) and "char:Hal Jordan" to search for Hal (whether he's GL, Spectre, or rainbow lantern at the time).

I wish I could say you could then search the GL tag and Hal tag together to find instances of Hal as a Green Lantern, but it seems searching multiple tags is additive, not subtractive. Way to go, LJ/IJ.
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From:[info]aaron_bourque
Date:April 10th, 2009 08:37 pm (UTC)
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I would, but I won't.

Aaron "The Mad Whitaker" Bourque; seriously, I don't "browse" this place. I treat it like a webcomic that I'm catching up on, and I rarely look back, unless I've actually made a comment about something.
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From:[info]sailorlibra
Date:April 10th, 2009 08:43 pm (UTC)

I need a saluting icon.

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Eh, I might as well do my part for the SD. I am now a proud volunteer of the Scans Daily International Tag Wranglers, at your service, ma'am.

I just email the above email address, right?
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From:[info]schmevil
Date:April 10th, 2009 08:45 pm (UTC)

Re: I need a saluting icon.

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Yup. And thanks! :)
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From:[info]parsimonia
Date:April 10th, 2009 09:06 pm (UTC)
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Well, alrighty. I may as well put my finickiness to use. =)
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From:[info]schmevil
Date:April 10th, 2009 09:17 pm (UTC)
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Eeexcellent. Looks like we'll have a good group. Email at us dailyscans[at]gmail[dot]com so we have a contact addy.
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From:[info]parsimonia
Date:April 10th, 2009 09:23 pm (UTC)
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I read the other comments after I posted mine and sent an e-mail already...because I'm nosey and presumptuous.
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From:[info]schmevil
Date:April 10th, 2009 09:24 pm (UTC)
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I've always loved that about you.
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From:[info]parsimonia
Date:April 10th, 2009 09:29 pm (UTC)
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D'aww shucks.
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From:[info]bluejaybirdie
Date:April 10th, 2009 09:34 pm (UTC)
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I can help out, if y'all want. My DCU encyclopedia and I are at your service! *salute*
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From:[info]schmevil
Date:April 11th, 2009 03:16 pm (UTC)
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Thank you! Email us at dailyscans[at]gmail[dot]com. I'll get an intro email ready for Monday, so we can all start talking and tagging.
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From:[info]fusil
Date:April 10th, 2009 10:11 pm (UTC)
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Yup! I've emailed the above address.
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From:[info]schmevil
Date:April 11th, 2009 03:17 pm (UTC)
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Thank you!
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From:[info]sandoz_iscariot
Date:April 10th, 2009 10:46 pm (UTC)
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I can help!
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From:[info]schmevil
Date:April 11th, 2009 03:16 pm (UTC)
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Thank you! Email us at dailyscans[at]gmail[dot]com. I'll get an intro email ready for Monday, so we can all start talking and tagging.
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From:[info]sandoz_iscariot
Date:April 11th, 2009 06:53 pm (UTC)
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Email sent!
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From:[info]ceru
Date:April 11th, 2009 09:00 am (UTC)
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I am way, way, way, way too busy to help, but as an LIS student, I approve of the authority control. Tagging can be fun AND a force for organizational good!
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From:[info]sir_razorback
Date:April 11th, 2009 10:40 am (UTC)
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Like I already told Rabican, I can't help with tag-wrangling anymore. Lost my job recently and I need to focus my time on jobsearching. I spend too much time on S/D as it is. =p It's been about three weeks since the last time I was able to do a tag-sweep.
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From:[info]schmevil
Date:April 11th, 2009 03:13 pm (UTC)
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Well, at least now we'll have a team of people dedicated to tag wrangling, to take the pressure off of any one individual.

Good luck with the search! :)
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From:[info]sir_razorback
Date:April 11th, 2009 11:44 am (UTC)
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Here's abit of prespective about just how fast these things are breeding.

S/D 2.0 has been up since the end of February. We haven't even been back two full months yet.

Members: 727
Tags: 1,047

I said before that they breed like tribbles, but I think even tribbles aren't this busy.
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From:[info]schmevil
Date:April 11th, 2009 03:15 pm (UTC)
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I went into the tag maintenance page to get rid of a particularly annoying mistag that keeps cropping up, and freaked out over how many we've got. Hence the call for volunteers. There's no way I have time to do it all myself. XD
From:[info]hallahalla
Date:April 12th, 2009 04:29 pm (UTC)
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I'm a little late, but I'd like to help out! miome.geo@yahoo.com

Scanning down the list, a few jump out at me:
# girls i want to fist - 1 use
# girls i'd like to fist - 1 use

# medium: webcomic - 27 uses
# medium: webcomics - 3 uses

# publisher: marvel - 7 uses
# publisher: marvel comics - 53 uses
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From:[info]foxhack
Date:April 12th, 2009 07:21 pm (UTC)
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We should also have some bonus tags. For example, what if someone posts fanart along with the scans? Or a video? Or Icon UK's commissions. We had an advertisement tag, so that makes some sense.
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