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long_silence (long_silence) wrote in scans_daily,
@ 2009-04-09 20:37:00

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char: black cat/felicia hardy, char: firestar/angelica jones, char: hellcat/patsy walker, creator: j. scott campbell, publisher: marvel comics, title: marvel divas

Marvel Divas?
Announced in today's My Cup O' Joe Myspace blog where Dan Abnett and Andy Lanning filled in for Quesada

An all new limited series called Marvel Divas starting in July from Roberto Aguirre-Sacasa and Tonci Zonjicy. It will feature Blackcat, Photon, Hellcat and Firestar.

“The idea behind the series was to have some sudsy fun and lift the curtain a bit and take a peep at some of our most fabulous super heroines. In the series, they're an unlikely foursome of friends--Black Cat, Hell Cat, Firestar, and Photon--with TWO things in common: They're all leading double-lives and they're all having romantic trouble. The pitch started as "Sex and the City" in the Marvel Universe, and there's definitely that "naughty" element to it, but I also think the series is doing to a deeper place, asking question about what it means...truly means...to be a woman in an industry dominated by testosterone and guns. (And I mean both the super hero industry and the comic book industry.) But mostly it's just a lot of hot fun. ”- Roberto Aguirre-Sacasa

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box_in_the_box
2009-04-09 09:48 pm UTC (link)

Why come off sounding like ignorant dicks at the same time, guys? :\

You've obviously not seen much of how Marvel conducts itself online.

Former Marvel President Bill Jemas, whom Brian Michael Bendis and Mark Millar credit with teaching them "everything we know" about how to interact with people (no, really; Bendis' own words), called retailers idiots, and described female comic book fans as "whores," on Newsarama.

Flash-forward to the present, and Spider-Man Editor Steve Wacker gets into pissing matches with fans on CBR, saying flat-out, "I know it won't accomplish anything for me to say this, other than making people mad, but ..." and then proceeds to joke about deliberately telling stories to SPITE their own fanbase.

I can find no possible sane reason for Marvel staffers to behave the way that they do online, since even their supporters are turned off by their borderline-trolling attempts at self-promotion. It's to the point where I seriously believe that they see being dicks to their own customers as both the purpose and the reward of their jobs, to the point that they'd be willing to take pay cuts just to be allowed to insult their readers.

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	newborn 2009-04-09 10:00 pm UTC (link)
	I think I'm just ridiculously naive. :( Although no, I didn't know about any of that. Argh, I just do not understand people sometimes. Didn't they watch Bambi as kids? IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING NICE TO SAY-- (Reply to this) (Parent)

	mysteryfangirl 2009-04-09 10:12 pm UTC (link)
	called retailers idiots, and described female comic book fans as "whores," on Newsarama. Wha? Do you have a link? That sounded... distressing enough that I did a search and couldn't find anything. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	box_in_the_box 2009-04-09 10:28 pm UTC (link)
	Sequential Tart comments on Bill Jemas (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

mysteryfangirl
2009-04-09 10:37 pm UTC (link)

Oh. Thanks. But that IS about Sequential Tart or whatever, looks like, right? Not female fans in general?

It's not easy to follow the quote reference. Sequential Tart links to a general forum, not a specific quote.

Looks like, from the little I get there, to be maybe a personal issue against something about one blog called Sequential Tart? That may have taken a sexist turn, which of course, is wrong. But maybe not a female-wide issue to me. At this point.

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box_in_the_box
2009-04-09 10:47 pm UTC (link)

Sequential Tart is a community of female and feminist comic book fans, and at the time that Jemas made those remarks, it included a few under-18 teen girls, who wrote letters to Jemas letting him know that they didn't like being called "sluts" or "whores." The link dead-ends because the thread, from 2002, is long since gone, but when female fans on Newsarama protested this shit, Jemas responded to them one-on-one, by telling them that, if they had a problem with it, it was their fault for being humorless bitches (he didn't use that word, but "panties in a twist" was used as a phrase).

Jemas is also the one whose ONLY idea about how to market female characters was "Bad Girls For Fanboys" - in other words, he basically flat-out stated that the only value they had, in his opinion, was as masturbation-fodder for male fans (he referred to them as "spankable").

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	rab62 2009-04-10 01:57 am UTC (link)
	Oh God, I missed this when it happened. How incredibly vile. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	greenmask 2009-04-10 04:37 am UTC (link)
	Damnit, that's disgusting. I did not know that. Jemas, huh? The name is now noted. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	superfan1 2009-04-10 06:34 pm UTC (link)
	That's repulsively vile. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	scottyquick 2009-04-12 02:50 pm UTC (link)
	Box, why must you make me cry? It's Easter. (Reply to this) (Parent)

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