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drsevarius (drsevarius) wrote in scans_daily,
@ 2009-10-18 22:24:00

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char: green lantern/boodikka, creator: geoff johns, creator: mike mckone, group: alpha lantern corps, group: green lantern corps, nsfw: tentacle rape, title: green lantern

The transformation of the Alpha Lanterns

From Green Lantern #27

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	crinosg 2009-10-19 02:38 am UTC (link)
	Wasn't logic and efficiency the things that made the Manhunters betray the Guardians in the first place? At what point did this, ANY of this, seem like a good idea to the Guardians? (Reply to this) (Thread)

	xammax 2009-10-19 02:43 am UTC (link)
	The point where they are the Guardians post 1986. Sans Gaunthet. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	(Anonymous) 2009-10-19 03:26 am UTC (link)
	Sans Ganthet, plus Scar. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	deepspaceartist 2009-10-19 02:41 am UTC (link)
	Well. That explains why the alphas are such assholes. I'd be an asshole too if I got techno-tentacle raped into a cyborg! (Reply to this)

	jlbarnett 2009-10-19 02:58 am UTC (link)
	they never did show what happened to the Alpha Lantern setup for John Stewart did they? (Reply to this) (Thread)

	jcbaggee 2009-10-19 03:25 am UTC (link)
	There was a set up? All I remember is him being offered and very quickly saying no. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	jlbarnett 2009-10-19 03:32 am UTC (link)
	Normal lanterns get a ring showing up, I swear I remember something like a Lantern showing up. But basically it was something that did the whole "scanning for suitable replacement" thing when he said no. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	jlbarnett 2009-10-19 03:33 am UTC (link)
	yeah, it's the green glowy Lanterns in front of them in the first panel. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	bluejaybirdie 2009-10-19 03:01 am UTC (link)
	Aw geez. That's just horrible. Why aren't the Guardians classified as villains, again? (Reply to this) (Thread)

	volksjager 2009-10-19 03:03 am UTC (link)
	When your THAT powerful the term is "eccentric"... (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	(Anonymous) 2009-10-19 03:11 am UTC (link)
	It's one of those irregular verbs, isn't it? I am an independent thinker, you are eccentric, he is 'round the twist... (Reply to this) (Parent)

	xammax 2009-10-19 03:27 am UTC (link)
	Its like being rich. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	nerium_oleander 2009-10-19 03:15 am UTC (link)
	Yeah, call 'em evil to their faces, that'll end well. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	sailorlibra 2009-10-19 03:32 am UTC (link)
	Your icon is awesome. Just thought you should know. (Reply to this) (Parent)

stig
2009-10-19 08:27 am UTC (link)

I recall Morrison referring to the Alphas as the FBI to the GLC's police. Therefore the Guardians could be classified as the ever-inept conservative government of yesteryear.

And you can bet that if they got succeeded by someone confident - e.g., Ganthet and the Blue Lanterns taking control over the GLC - then there'd be a faction within the GLC continually suspecting the new Guardians of being behind a conspiracy to destroy the Lanterns, or wanting to spread the rings to everyone, or accusing Ganthet of never being born on Oa in the first place...

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mania21
2009-10-19 10:09 am UTC (link)

No no, Ganthet has experience in ACTUAL leadership, based on what you're saying, whoever takes over would have to be someone who excells in speech making, and campaigning without any actual governing experience, and have an all powerful support group ready to shoot down any legitimate criticism, not to mention blind support from most major sources of common information. I don't see anyone like that on OA.

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	drsevarius 2009-10-19 02:47 pm UTC (link)
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	batcookies 2009-10-20 02:06 am UTC (link)
	Because, prior to Johns, they weren't remotely this bad. Somewhat dickish and reluctant to admit to mistakes, but ultimately good guys that had been protecting the universe for eons. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	khamelea 2009-10-19 03:05 am UTC (link)
	"No man escapes the Manhunters" is cool "No Lantern escapes the Alpha-Lanterns" is just dumb. On several levels. (Reply to this)

	aegof.livejournal.com 2009-10-19 03:14 am UTC (link)
	..and now one of them's possessed by Granny Goodness, getting who-knows-what crazy shenanigans ready. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	manofbats 2009-10-19 12:37 pm UTC (link)
	Nobody is possessed by New Gods anymore. They are all in the Fifth World. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	espanolbot 2009-10-19 01:22 pm UTC (link)
	'cept Darkseid. I think. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	jlbarnett 2009-10-21 12:09 am UTC (link)
	I'm sure Darkseid' there as well. There's no point to the Fourth World without him. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	drsevarius 2009-10-21 12:10 am UTC (link)
	Didn't he fall into that pit or something? (Reply to this) (Parent)

	mullon 2009-10-19 03:16 am UTC (link)
	I keep wondering if DC forgot about these guys. It sounded like it was going to be an important story, but it got lost in the Sinestro Corps/Blackest Night shuffle. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	jcbaggee 2009-10-19 03:26 am UTC (link)
	One of them was a key player in Final Crisis, but beyond that I don't think they've shown up anywhere. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	iondan 2009-10-19 08:36 am UTC (link)
	They were Morrison's idea. I wouldn't doubt it if they were created just so he could use them in FC. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

statham1986
2009-10-19 01:15 pm UTC (link)

Given they only featured in a small fraction of Final Crisis, and they could have been replaced by having ANY random GL under Granny Goodness' control, I doubt it was simply a case of Morrison wanting them there.

Johns clearly liked the idea of displaying that the Guardians were moving along the wrong path, post-SCW, and this is a great way of doing it, by showing they haven't learned from past mistakes. So they might have been Morrison's idea, but Johns went all the way and developed them.

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stig
2009-10-19 03:20 pm UTC (link)

Definitely Morrison's idea, but also definitely Johns' character development. All Morrison wanted was, and I quote the script to issue #1, "...the super-elite, the upgraded version - with hearts replaced by power batteries and implanted rings on each hand". Morrison probably only specifically used Kraken because she is from New Genesis, and allowed Johns to cherry-pick any others based on the character traits - Chaselon's misguided trust in the Guardians, Boodika's lust for glory, Green Man's search for a personal identity.

Morrison is credited with the idea in the issue preceding these scans.

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	nerium_oleander 2009-10-19 03:44 am UTC (link)
	I'm still holding out for the fallout, down the road, I think they'll keep. Blackest Night is proceeding nicely, IMO. Is it December yet? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	foxhack 2009-10-19 04:10 am UTC (link)
	Frankly? I thought they WERE going to show up as Black Lanterns. They're barely even alive at this point. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	flyingfoxman 2009-10-19 04:27 am UTC (link)
	They did show up to act all shortsighted and be obstructionist, setting up Salaak to pwn them. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	stig 2009-10-19 08:29 am UTC (link)
	It's a pity that Green Man especially got shoved aside - his former partner was that robot GL. I'd just love to see a conversation between them where Green Man is now the unemotional machine... (Reply to this) (Parent)

	charlemagnne 2009-10-19 04:26 am UTC (link)
	This is actually pretty horrifying. Did the Gaurdians tell those Lanterns what they were going into, or did they lie to them, or not tell them anything? Poor Boodikka :( (Reply to this) (Thread)

	flyingfoxman 2009-10-19 04:28 am UTC (link)
	If I recall correctly, the Guardians said Alpha Lanterns would get a second ring, no longer need to sleep, but would lose their prior identity. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	tsunamiwombat 2009-10-19 07:28 am UTC (link)
	Technical honesty is the best kind! Seriously... Screw the Guardians, they seemd to mess up EVERYTHING they touch. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	jlroberson 2009-10-19 10:06 pm UTC (link)
	That's my reassurance on BLACKEST NIGHT: they have a Guardian in a central role. Won't be long before she fucks it all up. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	xlineartx 2009-10-19 05:09 am UTC (link)
	Geoff Johns sure likes writing oaths, huh. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	manofbats 2009-10-19 12:43 pm UTC (link)
	It was probably Grant Morrison who came up with that oath since he developed the concept of the Alpha Lanterns. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	iondan 2009-10-19 08:33 am UTC (link)
	The only good thing that came from the alpha lanterns is Kraken's top/power battery covers her chest now. I'm hoping that when Sodam Yat's done being daxam's sun he can finally put his Ion powers to good use and turn the alpha lanterns back to normal. (Reply to this)

	unknownscribler 2009-10-19 09:04 am UTC (link)
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	espanolbot 2009-10-19 01:27 pm UTC (link)
	Heh, so true. ^^ Puts me in mind of this as well, that picture does, Quickpost this image to Myspace, Digg, Facebook, and others! http://kdingo.net/champ/pics/main.php?g2_itemId=9524 (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	unknownscribler 2009-10-19 02:17 pm UTC (link)
	Awesome. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	stig 2009-10-19 03:23 pm UTC (link)
	Well, if we're playing that game... (Reply to this) (Parent)

	04nbod 2009-10-19 11:29 am UTC (link)
	I'm not even cetain what was done. The art is a mess. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	vignettelante 2009-10-19 07:18 pm UTC (link)
	All I can make out is gratuitous orifice invasion ensued. (Reply to this) (Parent)

wizardru
2009-10-19 11:51 am UTC (link)

Does anyone else think the 'disco ball' alien looks totally ridiculous with the alpha lantern gasmask thingie on? Scratch that...they ALL look ridiculous. He just looks beyond the pale.

And they're not the FBI to the GLC's police. They're the Internal Affairs division to the detective/beat cops.

What exactly was the justification for the creation of the Alpha Lanterns? That they were broadening the Lantern's enforcement powers (lethal force is now regularly allowed), so they needed stronger enforcement? And that 'no lantern shall escape the Alpha Lanterns' stuff seems really inappropriate and different in tone from the 'No man shall escape the Manhunters' feel. The 'Best Elements'? I think you have that backwards...it looks like you took those OUT.

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	menagerie 2009-10-19 03:11 pm UTC (link)
	Morrison has this thing for alien/cosmic surgeries. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	jlroberson 2009-10-19 10:14 pm UTC (link)
	Having undergone one, according to him. (Reply to this) (Parent)