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Captain Jack Harkness ([info]imimpossible) wrote in [info]reality_crisis,
@ 2012-05-10 20:30:00

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Entry tags:challenge: 7 sins/7 virtues, eric northman, jack harkness, status: complete

A Visitor to New Troy (Eric Northman)
There was only so long a man could dwell in a bottle. Only so long he can avoid his own memories and guilt through the attempt at suicide by alcohol poisoning. Not that it would take to Jack, but he has woken up in a ditch more than once since being here. Scared the hell out of a few passerbyes when he sucked in a sharp breath and sat up. He must have been dead. The bad aftertaste in his mouth had been familiar anyway. This was no way to spend eternity.

He still didn't want to think too much or Ianto and Steven would be right there in his mind, staring at him without an ounce of blame in their eyes. Neither of them would blame him for what he did to them, primarily because he held enough blame for the three of them. But also because they both had loved Jack. Both of them with an innocence that defied belief. Just two more ghosts for Jack. Two more incidents Jack could have avoided if he'd been just a little bit more patient. A little bit more...something. Anything.

Well. If he wasn't going to be drunk or find someone else to pass through his bed, then he was going to figure things out. Oh, he had this city down having spent more than a little time in the bars, wandering the streets. He even got the little community that sprang up outside the walls just inside the forest. What he didn't have the first clue about was New Troy. Something new to discover, to take his mind off of his ghosts. Decision made Jack went back to his top floor apartment, cleaned himself up, shaved then got dressed in clean clothing. He put his coat back on, smoothed his lapels then strolled casually out of die Festung and off into the direction of New Troy.

Oddly, he thought, the trip was without encounter. Jack had been expecting zombies. Faeries. Something. The most he got was an irrate bird who felt Jack had wandered too close to its nest. Pesky little thing took a peck at his hair. So it was with a jaunty stride that he came to New Troy. He stopped to take in the sight of the city, compare its condition with die Festung then he smiled and walked right in.



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[info]ododlig
2012-05-11 01:33 am UTC (link)
Eric was roused as the sun was going down by talk outside of his secret room of somebody new in the city. They didn't talk about anything more than the description of the stranger, which was annoying, but he supposed that nobody had had a chance to have an encounter yet. He waited for the area to be clear and then emerged from hiding.

The sun was not yet all the way down, so there were some rooms in the grand house that Eric couldn't yet go into. But his "bedroom" was blacked out completely, and the office would have the shutters closed until he opened them personally. He'd made that a very clear rule.

Nights when he was up this early usually dragged on slowly, and Eric was already discovering himself in a bad mood. He hoped, really hoped, that something would come along to reverse that.

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[info]imimpossible
2012-05-11 01:45 am UTC (link)
It was quite possible that the something he was hoping for found his way to house and took note of the shutters covering the windows. Jack had been directed this way when he asked where he could find the person in charge, and he stopped beneath the windows, his hands in his pockets and looked up at the shutters.

"...huh."

Interesting that all of the other windows were exposed but these. They didn't seem to be shielding of any sort against weapons that Jack could tell. So why close them? Maybe this trip was what he needed.

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[info]ododlig
2012-05-11 01:51 am UTC (link)
A small group of office workers that were leaving for the day stopped when one of their members spotted the man standing below the window. She smiled softly.

"He's not usually up this early, but he is today. If you're looking to speak to him, he should be in his office."

She moved on, then. Her shift was over, but there was a skeleton staff that came in for overnights. Since their boss was a night creature, not everything could be done on a regular schedule.

Eric himself was just sitting at his desk, starting to look at some notes that were taken during the day. Lists of what was scavenged. Crop reports. Doctor notes - Eric kept a close eye on health, considering the way they lived and how bad an outbreak of anything would be. Various things that he personally didn't have to worry about, but were his responsibility because he ran New Troy.

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[info]imimpossible
2012-05-11 02:04 am UTC (link)
The helpful staffmember got a charming smile from him along with a mumbled thanks. He watched them walk off, his smile growing a tad more appreciative then he went in the way they came out. Finding someone on the next shift he asked to be shown to his office. Another smile and an idle flirt earned him his own personal escort.

"..wouldn't believe," he hand her hand tucked under his arm by the time they reached his office, and Jack was finishing up some story or another. "More stars than you can imagine. If you could see them, but the mist is so thick the fish swim in the atmosphere instead of the on the surface. It's the sharks you have to watch out for."

His guide was giggling and blushing as they got to the door. Jack looked in and smiled, even as his brows twitched a little bit to see the man behind the desk. "Hi."

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[info]ododlig
2012-05-11 02:15 am UTC (link)
Eric glanced up and looked between the girl and the man she'd been escorting. He expected her to leave on her own, but she stayed, looking with a stupid grin at the man she was with.

"That will be all." He said, finally. His mood was showing in the tone of his words. The girl scooted off quickly after she realized.

He stood, then. "Welcome to New Troy. I am Eric Northman. What can I do for you?"

Eric was doing his best to not be curt or irritable with the man. If he was a Chosen, Eric wanted to be at his best. Even if he wasn't, a good impression needed to be made so that word would spread that he wasn't some monster.

Even if he was.

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[info]imimpossible
2012-05-11 02:21 am UTC (link)
He smiled to the girl as she left then turned back to walk into the office towards the man in charge, obviously.

He nodded as the Eric introduced himself and held out his hand. "Captain Jack Harkness. Nice to meet you." He shrugged a little for the question. "Thought I'd stop by and have a look around the neighbor city."

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[info]ododlig
2012-05-11 02:33 am UTC (link)
Eric looked at the hand a moment, only shaking it after an awkward pause. He knew that humans did this kind of thing normally. He didn't like to, and he hadn't ever been required to before, but now he was in charge of a city and it was being expected of him more frequently.

It still felt wrong.

"You are more than welcome to have a look around, if you have any specific questions, I will answer them."

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[info]imimpossible
2012-05-11 02:46 am UTC (link)
"Really." He let go of Mr. Northman's hand and put his own into his pants' pockets. "Seems like everyone's pretty eager to be open with everyone else." He smirked. "Or come across that way."

He helped himself to a chair as that smirk pulled to one side. "Belia gave me pretty much the same offer. Including automatic residency and a place to live. Is that how you run this place too?"

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[info]ododlig
2012-05-11 02:59 am UTC (link)
"I've made this city a safe haven for the Chosen." Eric said in reply. He really didn't want more ordinary humans to have to take care of.

He sat when his guest did.

"I don't have a quarantine. If somebody wishes to take up a home here, I'm not going to deny them. A city thrives on those that live in it. If I kicked everybody out I wouldn't have much of a city, would I?"

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[info]imimpossible
2012-05-11 03:04 am UTC (link)
"I heard a few stories about the guy who sat in that chair before you." And none of them were very charitable. Jack didn't really remember details since a lot of the stories had been told over drinks, but he remembered the sentiment. "Guess he had a different opinion."

He leaned back in the chair draping an arm over the back as well. "You don't look like a local."

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[info]ododlig
2012-05-11 03:14 am UTC (link)
"He had an arena. He used the Chosen as playthings." Eric didn't like thinking about his time in the arena, it still held a lot of his rage. His wrath had been taken out on the man, but now that his body was gone, he kind of missed the pleasure of looking out his window at the gate and seeing the remains.

"I'm not. I take it you aren't either?"

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[info]imimpossible
2012-05-11 03:22 am UTC (link)
A grin spread across Jack's face as he chuckled. "Hardly. But you knew that, I think."

He found himself wanting a drink but restrained himself from asking if Northman had anything. He'd told himself he was going to stay sober so damn it, that's what he was going to do.

"I guess it's safe to assume the former ruler doesn't have to worry about zombies or faeries anymore."

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[info]ododlig
2012-05-11 03:32 am UTC (link)
Eric did smile, then.

"No. He doesn't have to worry about anything at all."

He sat back in the chair, relaxing now. "So, Captain Jack, you're not native, but you don't seem to be new here either. Just new to New Troy. Have you been staying with Belia this whole time, or have you explored the nomads?"

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[info]imimpossible
2012-05-11 03:37 am UTC (link)
He was trying to figure out what Mr. Northman was. To Jack's experience all of the Chosen were...special...in some way. He hadn't met a plain human yet. Hell, he fucked an angel...who he hadn't seen since. Part of him wondered how Castiel was doing, and if he still felt human lust. Later.

He chuckled. "Oh, I'm not staying with Belia. Not that I didn't try, but that woman is frigid." He huffed with a lopsided grin and crossed an ankle over the opposing knee. "I'm living in her city, sure but that's just geography."

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[info]ododlig
2012-05-11 08:26 am UTC (link)
Eric's smile widened into a grin. "That's not quite what I meant, but I do appreciate the sentiment behind your words."

Not only was he hearing something negative about a woman he was beginning to think of as competition, but Jack's honesty and bluntness was refreshing.

He'd been visited, and yet only asked questions, not shared much information. Only Kitty had been forthcoming with him. Dinah and her friend Clark, Sam and Dean, they had all come for the purpose of an interrogation. Aside from Sam's initial help, Eric had gotten pretty much nothing from them.

"Any other tidbits of information you'd like to share?"

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[info]imimpossible
2012-05-11 12:33 pm UTC (link)
Jack returned the grin with one of his own. Something about Belia had red flags waving some in his head. He didn't trust her. It might be for the instant generousity on her part. It might be her chilly disposition. Whatever it was, Jack hadn't quite figured it out yet, but he would.

As for Northman, he was quiet. Spoke with a patience Jack hadn't seen in a long time. There was something off about him that made Jack pay attention, but for some reason he didn't feel the need to have his finger on the trigger of his gun. Not yet, anyway.

He smirked a little for the question. It told him a lot about Northman now. He seemed to be just as greedy for information as Jack was which made Jack wonder why. "Did you know there was a new mini-city being built and occupied in the forest outside of die Festung? Kind of reminds me of the Hoovervilles that sprang up all over America during the Depression." There. That was quite a bit of information for Northman to whet his appetite with.

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[info]ododlig
2012-05-11 08:33 pm UTC (link)
"No, I wasn't aware. Interesting." Eric considered what this might mean, a third city being created. He felt like he wanted to go explore and see who was behind it.

"This is a very odd place, this world." It seemed to only get more strange as time went by. He'd thought that the nomads were the most strange of the groups present because of the way they lived. How they refused the safety of either city. But now, somebody was setting up another makeshift living arrangement in the fae forest. Either they didn't know about the fairies within, or they knew how to work with and around them.

His eyes rested on the desk between them. "I apologize, my hospitality hasn't been the best tonight. Can I have somebody get you something to drink or eat?"

Yes, Jack was very different than the others that had come to see him. He'd not offered them refreshments. They had been all business and nothing more.

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[info]imimpossible
2012-05-11 10:48 pm UTC (link)
Jack was almost slways business, when his clothes were on or he wasn't looking to find someone to take them off for him. He just went about it in a much different way than most of the rest of the universe. He liked to call it the You'll Never See Me Coming technique.

A drink. Kind of what he was avoiding, but with as much as he had recently imbibed one drink wouldn't put him in his cups. "Wouldn't mind a whiskey, thanks." He smiled politely, making himself comfortable in the chair.

"And I don't know." He shrugged a shoulder. "I've seen odder worlds with odder and more dangerous beings populating them. This place is kind of a cake walk compared to Norelian Prime." He gave a mock shudder. "Insectoids are the dominant species. Mostly they resemble Earth's preying mantis. And if you know anything about the preying mantis then you can just imagine how their mating rituals go."

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[info]ododlig
2012-05-11 11:07 pm UTC (link)
Eric reached out and pushed the intercom buzzer. "Bring Mr Harkness a whiskey." Then as an afterthought "The good stuff." Eric had no idea what the name of the girl currently running around as his secretary was. She had just started. He had worried about having to train somebody new, but she seemed to take cues from the others around her, and she had learned very quickly.

"You have been to other worlds before?" That was enough to spark Eric's curiosity about the man in a personal matter, drawing his attention away from what Jack might know. Eric tried to imagine a world populated with preying mantis, and found his imagination took hold a little too strongly. It probably was only somewhat as he was picturing. But it was enough. "I find that I both want to see that and never want to see that."

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[info]imimpossible
2012-05-11 11:23 pm UTC (link)
Jack didn't mind talking about himself at all. As a matter of fact it was his favorite topic...as long as you avoided the personal questions.

He nodded with a smug little smile. "Many worlds, and many times." He grinned knowing that was a confusing answer. "I was a Time Agent. It was my job to keep the time continuum fluid. The whole butterfly effect theory...except it's true." His brows lowered. "Sort of. It's complicated."

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[info]ododlig
2012-05-12 03:53 am UTC (link)
"It probably won't come as any surprise that I have no idea what a Time Agent is." Eric mused. He got the idea of it, though. The explanation was clear to him, he'd just never encountered one. Ever. He didn't think they even existed in his own world. Surely somebody would have come across one.

"You speak of that in the past tense. Are you no longer responsible for the continuum?"

Maybe it was just a job, like Eric's job as the Sheriff of Area 5 had been. There was no Area 5 here, so he had no job as Sheriff.

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[info]imimpossible
2012-05-12 04:21 am UTC (link)
Jack chuckled but his smile held an edge to it that was a bit sharp and borderline dangerous. It was all very subtle. One had to know what they were looking at, really. "I didn't figure that you would." No, Jack would remember someone like Northman. Not only was he easy on the eyes, but there was something about that quiet personality that Jack knew would stay with him.

Now they were getting to things touching a bit too closely to his personal stuff. His smile tightened a little and his eyes went hard. "Having two years of your life eliminated from your memory kind of makes you want to quit your job." His smile was positively cold. "I am no longer responsible for the continuum."

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[info]ododlig
2012-05-12 10:23 am UTC (link)
Eric knew the signs of somebody who didn't want to talk about personal things. Many vampires kept subjects away from straying too close and they had that same look. Eric was sure that he'd made the face himself more than once.

So as much as he wanted to ask about the missing two years, he decided to turn the conversation back to something much more pleasant for the both of them.

Before he could speak, Jack's whiskey was brought in. Eric kept his mouth closed while the girl was in the room, not wanting to encourage her to stay in any way. When she left, he turned his attentions again to his guest.

"You spoke of the Depression, yet you are not old fashioned. Can I venture a guess that you are long lived?"

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[info]imimpossible
2012-05-12 04:01 pm UTC (link)
"Thank you, darlin'." Jack smiled to the girl when she handed him his drink. Yes, he was what would be called a player, and he never bothered to hide it. Someone was always on his radar even during business. Or maybe especially at those times. But the girl left quickly, and Jack took a drink as he made a mental note to get her name on the way out.

He hummed for the comment and the question, chuckling as he swallowed the stinging alcohol. That lopsided smile was back as he set the glass on the desk between them. "You could say that." Sort of. "I have been there for almost every age Earth has seen." Which was true. Again, sort of. He smoothed a hand over the sleeve of his beloved coat. It was definitely true that Jack stuck to a certain era of clothing, but his mannerisms were modern. "It's easier to adapt with the times than to get stuck in one or the other." He shrugged a shoulder. "Or maybe I'm just so used to bouncing around the eras that it's hard to pick just one."

His eyes trained on Northman in a way that said he'd just given up some information to Jack with his question and curiosity. It was a knowing look, one that might be exchanged by two people over a game of chess after a particularly clever move. "I'm thinking you might be familiar with long lived people." He certainly was taking the concept in stride.

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[info]ododlig
2012-05-15 07:22 am UTC (link)
Eric could appreciate the way that Jack had with the ladies, but found no interest in humans himself. He hadn't looked twice at any member of his staff, male or female. Especially not when he knew more interesting things were out there. It was like having vanilla when strawberry was prancing around in front of your face.

"Yes. It is easier to adapt." Eric knew vampires who were stuck in one age or another. They always looked absurd. There were habits that you just couldn't shake, of course.

"Yes. I am very familiar." He nodded. "Admittedly, I am one myself." Sharing that seemed only fair, in the face of all that Jack had said already.

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[info]imimpossible
2012-05-15 08:29 pm UTC (link)
He wasn't surprised to hear that. Jack hadn't gotten anything real detailed about this guy yet, but he was putting the puzzle pieces together. Whatever the picture ended up being he probably wouldn't care. He just wanted to know.

"Really." It was feigned surprise to go along with the fact that he'd already figured that out. "So what manner of long lived being are you then?" He took a sip of his drink before getting more comfortable in the chair.

"Ran into some already. A vampire." He smirked a little appreciatively. Spike had been kind of fun when you eliminated the whole gingerbread house fiasco. "An angel." There was even more appreciation in that smile he got. "Castiel. Interesting fellow."

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[info]ododlig
2012-05-17 03:23 am UTC (link)
"Interesting." Eric hadn't known that there were any other vampires here. He'd thought that he was the only one. It was a little disappointing to discover that he wasn't. "Well, now you've met two vampires."

He wasn't sure what to think about Jack saying he'd met an angel. Eric had no reason not to believe him, but it seemed strange that this place would be home to any of those kind. That it would be able to draw them in.

Clearly, he had more reading to do in the library.

"I suppose I should get out more and meet different people. You seem to be having all the fun."

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[info]imimpossible
2012-05-17 04:09 pm UTC (link)
"Is that so?" Jack didn't seem overly surprised, but he did find it interesting that there was another vampire in the world, and that he was running a city. Now he had even more information and could paint a better picture of the man he was speaking with.

"Well," he smiled and spread his hands in a what can you do gesture. ""All work and no play makes everything dull. I've found it more...satisfying to mix business with pleasure. Delegate. That's what having power is for, right?" He was very interested in Northman's answer.

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[info]ododlig
2012-05-17 08:41 pm UTC (link)
Eric smiled, knowing that Jack didn't need an answer to his first question. He wouldn't bother with trying to explain anything else about himself in that area just now. He didn't think that Jack was the type of man to let curiosities go unanswered for very long if he had them.

"Well, admittedly, since I've taken over New Troy I haven't exactly done anything for the fun of it." Eric thought about all the work he'd been doing. "Usually I'm not the sort to focus so intently on my job, but this place wasn't exactly in the best of shape before I got here."

He narrowed his eyes briefly in Jack's direction, thoughtfully. "What would you suggest for pleasure?"

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[info]imimpossible
2012-05-17 09:32 pm UTC (link)
"They never are." Jack chuckled as he took another drink then eyed Northman for a silent moment, pondering his question. He smelled a trap, but of what nature was the question. He couldn't get a good solid read on the vampire...yet...so answering could be tricky. That wasn't to say that Jack wasn't going to.

"You really need to be reminded on how to have fun?" Jack grinned and relaxed against his chair, one arm thrown casually over the back. "Drink. Get drunk. Pick a bar fight for no good reason. Give in to vice and excess." He grinned. "Fuck someone. The seven deadlies haven't really changed that much in centuries."

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[info]ododlig
2012-05-17 10:46 pm UTC (link)
"Reminded? No. But you seem better traveled in this new world." Eric smiled. "No, vices have not changed, my ability to imbibe in them has. I cannot drink, if I wish to get drunk I have to feed on somebody who already is. A bar fight would be no fun for me, as I'm unsure if there's even anybody in this world who can stand against me for long, certainly no human who would be in said bar could."

But the last couple of suggestions, those were things that Eric could not only do, but do well.

"All said, you seem to be a man of my own tastes."

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[info]imimpossible
2012-05-17 11:13 pm UTC (link)
"Huh." Something he didn't know right there since Spike had no problem drinking at all. Interesting. He would LOVE to delve deeper into that! Knowledge was power after all.

"Oh I think you might be surprised." He chuckled as he laced his fingers behind his head casually. "Word has it Superman is here. Well," he shrugged, "a young Superman anyway. I think you could find someone to go toe to toe with." But Northman would have to come to die Festung and that could definitely be interesting.

He chuckled with a knowing smirk on his face. Technically, Jack was perceived as a white hat. Jack and a few others knew better. His hat was a bit dusty and smudged. "I usually am."

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[info]ododlig
2012-05-17 11:54 pm UTC (link)
"I have no idea what a superman is." Eric lifted a brow. He could fix that, he knew, but he wasn't going to go for the library collection now. He didn't want to share that with anybody. Even a potential ally. "Unless you are speaking of Nietzsche. Given the other types that I have met here, I doubt that you are."

The idea of somebody here that could match him physically was interesting. Eric thought that he wanted to investigate this person more, if he really was here. Discover what he could do. Eric hadn't had a good fight, a real fight, in ages.

"Tell me then, Jack. Who is there to fuck?"

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[info]imimpossible
2012-05-18 12:04 am UTC (link)
His brows lifted for Eric's admission. "Superman? Big S. Red cape." He paused. "Comic book hero?" When nothing else rang a bell, "Christopher Reeve?" He glowered and waved his hand. "Nevermind." He'd figure it out or he wouldn't.

He chuckled for Eric's choice of sins. Something, at least, remained predictable. "That depends. What's your flavor?"

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[info]ododlig
2012-05-18 12:06 am UTC (link)
Eric shook his head, not knowing. "I'm old, but I'm not very into pop culture." He'd never really gotten into things like comic books or television. There were better things to do with one's time.

But his smile returned. "Attractive. Is either intelligent or can keep their mouth shut. Durable. Other than that, I don't have any particular restrictions."

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[info]imimpossible
2012-05-18 12:14 am UTC (link)
"Yeah, but you had to be living under a rock to not know about Superman." He chuckled but waved it off as not important.

"Attractive." Check. "Intelligent or silent." He fit one. "Durable." Well, not so much but Jack came back. Still he wasn't in any hurry to die by sex. That would actually be a first for him possibly. "Well...the angel is off the table. I don't think you're his type. There's Spike, but there might be more of a clash of egos than anything else there."

Faith. Pretty, arrogant Faith. But there was one, huge glaring problem so he wasn't even going to bring her up. Besides. Jack like her.

"Maybe you'll have to go looking around." Jack smirked and reached for his drink.

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[info]ododlig
2012-05-18 01:13 am UTC (link)
"I can't honestly say I thought of having sex with the angel. I didn't think they went in for those kind of shenanigans." But that Jack had even brought it up was curious. "I don't need them to be immortal anyway. I just need them to last."

His eyebrow raised, this time in a suggestive way. "I might get rough, but it's been hundreds of years since I killed anyone on accident."

Even here, in the state he'd been in, nobody had died. It was only after he'd cleared his head and gotten himself back together that he'd killed Lucius.

"I suppose it goes along with what I said before about not working so much. A man has to play. Undead or otherwise."

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[info]imimpossible
2012-05-18 01:25 am UTC (link)
"I don't think he was technically an angel at the time." Jack got a thoughtful look on his face then sighed with a shrug. "Right place, right time sort of thing."

He gave a quiet snort as he picked up on the suggestion. Hey, he didn't need to be hit over the head with a clue by four. Definitely interesting. Now if he could just keep from being killed by accident or otherwise. He'd rather not give his secret away just yet.

He met Northman's eyes solidly as he sat forward, a small smirk pulling his lips to the side. "Maybe you should get on that instead of just musing about it."

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[info]ododlig
2012-05-18 01:37 am UTC (link)
Eric leaned back further in the chair, pushing himself toward the window enough that he could reach out and move the shutter slightly. The sun was sinking finally, but it was not yet far enough that he could risk going outside. He closed the shutter firmly and turned his attentions back to Jack.

"Soon enough."

He placed his hands on the desk in front of him. "Were there other questions I could answer for you? Or perhaps you would like me to arrange a tour of New Troy? I'm sure I could get the secretary to take you around."

She didn't seem like she would have opposed, though Eric could also just make her. They seemed, the whole lot of them, pretty willing to do as he said.

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[info]imimpossible
2012-05-18 01:43 am UTC (link)
He gave one quiet and brief chuckle then a moment later it became more amused along with the grin on his face. Oh, Jack. Not everything is about you, you vain thing you.

"A tour would be great." He smirked then stood up from his chair. "It was...interesting to meet you, Mr. Northman."

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[info]ododlig
2012-05-18 02:23 am UTC (link)
Eric pushed the buzzer. "Come in here please." Then stood. When the girl came into the room, he indicated Jack. "Take Captain Harkness on a tour of New Troy. Answer what questions you can. Make sure that he doesn't get bored. And send me in somebody on your way out."

When she nodded, somewhat confused with part of her instructions, Eric turned away from her. She would figure it out, whatever her issue was. He didn't think it was his last request, that was daily. "It was interesting to meet you. Please feel free to return in the future."

Eric was interested in Jack, he did want to know more, but felt that it would be best done another time. When information had had a chance to settle.

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[info]imimpossible
2012-05-18 02:35 am UTC (link)
So Northman was going to take him up on his suggestion. Hopefully whoever..entertained him..survived the experience without too much damage. Jack was slightly amused, but hoped he hadn't opened up an ugly can of worms.

He gave Northman an enigmatic smile and a nod of his head then turned to the pretty young lady, offering her his arm. "Hi. How are you? I am really looking forward to a thorough tour." It was almost as if Northman had ceased to exist.

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