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Britin (_alicesprings) wrote in qaf_coffeeclub,
@ 2009-05-21 01:04:00

Annoyances.
I went stumbling around on LJ tonight, looking for fics I haven't read yet. I found a few, one horrible thing and a couple other quite well-written post-513 fics. They weren't new, but they were new to me.

The thing they all had in common was that they had an estranged B/J who reunite.

I'm talking post-513 B/J who either, quite quickly, or gradually, stop talking completely, don't see each other any more and Justin goes on to have relationships with other men but eventually B/J get back together.

So we've got a post-513 Justin who pursues relationships with other men, we've got a post-513 Brian who lets Justin go to New York and never speak to him again.

We've got another post-513 Justin who is surprised when Brian shows up years later, telling him he misses him and wants them back together. Surprised, because apparently post-513 Justin thinks Brian doesn't really miss him or love him or doesn't make grand gestures...

I'm confused. And annoyed. So annoyed I had to get out of bed at 1am and make this post because I couldn't sleep.

So, WTF is wrong with this picture? That's not right, is it? I mean, Brian already, told Justin that he loves him, propsed to him, bought him a house, told him he looked beautiful, opened up about his "feelings" (although these post-513 Brian's apparently aren't supposed to have feelings beacuse that's "not Brian Kinney"), so why is this post-513 Justin so disbelieving that Brian does actually say ILY and make a grand gesture?

Are we really supposed to think the ILY and marriage proposal was purely out of shock from the bombing? Therefore, he doesn't actually love Justin? I mean, the wedding - bad idea. They acknowledged that, they called that off, but does that therefore also mean we pretend Brian never said ILY? That Brian would never repeat that post-513?

That Brian would happily let Justin move to New York and never speak to him again? Is it really so incredulous that Brian, having already said ILY once and exhibiting all that new and outwardly loving behaviour in season 5 would do it again post-513?

Are we really to believe post-513 Justin, who finally got a verbal acknowledgement that Brian loves him - DUH, he's known it for years anyway - are we to believe he happily goes off to New York and says oh well, Brian's cut me off, it must be over so therefore I'll just start dating new people?

Oh! Also, we have a 50-year-old Brian who isn't tricking much anymore and Justin is shocked that Brian's not tricking much because "that's not Brian Kinney".

Um, I'm not saying that BJ have to be monogamous, but come on, he's FIFTY! Don't you think he'd stop tricking incessantly sooner or later?

Did I miss something, or do I need to just put up with the fic drought and stick to writers I know and trust, because this has messed with my mind!!

What's your take on post-513 Brian? Post-513 Justin? Who are they? What do they want from life? From each other? Your realistic vision of who they are.

Brian is NOT who he was in season 1 anymore, even if some of his actions post-bombing were borne of shock or whatever, it's not realistic to pretend those actions NEVER happened, right? Right? Please help me restore correct world order to my poor sad brain.

And now that I have that off my chest, I'm going to attempt sleep again.

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frantic_quest
2009-05-20 12:18 pm UTC (link)

What's your take on post-513 Brian? Post-513 Justin? Who are they? What do they want from life? From each other? Your realistic vision of who they are.

My realistic take is that they will remain lovers committed to each other without needing any sort of public declaration to define their love for each other. All that matters is that they understand and accept whatever boundaries they draw up for each other whether that be monogamy or not.

Realistically however they will do whatever needs to be done to legally protect what rights they do have as domestic partners. (But no pomp or circumstance surrounding it)

I see them constantly in touch via whatever means available if they cannot physically be together, and I see them apart more in the first few years post-513 than in later years, both focused more on establishing/maintaining career/business achievements with the goal being to eventually be able to live together permanently.

I think they will both always consider the Pitts home base, but I see them eventually living full time in a major city, an arts & commerce hub, but not necessarily NYC.

Based on their past history, Brian's insecurities, and Justin's restlessness, there will be times when they will take a break from each other, but will always find their way back. I think they learned from past mistakes but there are always new misunderstandings and life is not a fairy tale (even for queers)

Kind of unromantic I know, but that's where I see them. However, I've read a lot of post-513 tales and I can still enjoy the scenarios mentioned, even if I know that's not the way I see it happening.

But on a slightly ~~shallow~~romantic note, no matter how much time passes they are always hot, always have mind-blowing sex together. And Brian still says ILY, but Justin says it more-lol!

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	_alicesprings 2009-05-20 06:34 pm UTC (link)
	All that matters is that they understand and accept whatever boundaries they draw up for each other whether that be monogamy or not. Yes! Thank you, I like your vision :) (Reply to this) (Parent)

bj_dream
2009-05-22 06:55 am UTC (link)

I can't agree with you more. I have no idea why i love Brian and Justin together as much as i do. Friends have actually said to me, you just don't seem the type to read about these type of relationships. Must be the romantic in me. I loved Brian throughout the entire series. I think that he really did "LOVE" Justin from the moment he met him. He actually shared things with Justin that he "NEVER" told anyone. It always annoyed me to no end that Mikey was always able to sway Brian from being with Justin.

I beleive that Brian would have followed Justin to New York probably within the first year. Kinnetic was doing well, Babylon was reopened and he obviously had the money to open either a branch or remote operating office. It would put Brian and Justin together and it would be practical for all parties. I actually love it in the FICS when Justin loses his inspiratation to paint with Brian. It shows a side that we all know exist in his world. There was even a fic somewhere that when Justin "REGAINED" his memories back and found that his hand was no longer bothering him. While that is a little far fetched, it showed once again that Love does conquer all.

I know that somewhere in an AR Brian and Justin are together and Mikey does not exist. I thought that after season 4 when Mikey told Justin that Brian loved him that maybe they would have Mikey grow up but then we still continued to see the snotty Mikey.

Lindsy either exists and stops clinging to Brian or she is also forced out of his life. I didn't like that "SHE" found away to push them apart again. It would have took the writers less than 2 seconds to have Justin and Brian dancing together in the last scene to make the viewers happy or to atleast have Justin on the phone with Brian or meeting him at Britin. They just choose not to do it. I think that if they were going to break them up and have it be permanent it should have been somewhere in the begining of season 5.

Anyway, i am running off subject here. In my head Brian and Justin will be together no matter what, no matter the odds, etc. I actually even like the idea of them still getting married, but not telling anyone because they wouldn't want to show everyone else their relationship. Hell i wish that someone would love me half as much as Brian loves Justin. I have been married for about 17 yrs and have never once in that time even felt half the love that you can see in their eyes. Maybe it is the fact that i realized this past year that i just pushed most of who i am to the side when i got married. I was raised pretty strickly christian and pretty much pushed my bisexual nature to the side. I even realized the other day that if i was born a man, i would probably still be the same way that i am. All i can say about that is never hide who you are to please anyone. It is not worth the pressure that builds in your head or the pain that it keeps in your heart. Don't get me wrong i love my hubby, but i have spend alot of this last year thinking about "used to be's", "what if's", and "what might have been's"

If you find the perfect FICS let us know. Love Dawn

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