So, work is going forward on debugging and refining the site schemes. The compliant browsers should all be fixed now, so if you have IE7, any Mozilla, Safari or Opera and are still seeing layout bugs, please let me know.
The good brawlyball has volunteered to work on backward compatibility for IE and is prodding at the more arcane bugs on that end.
There are small-font options in the works, but that requires some template code changes and will therefore probably have to wait until Squeaky has dealt with getting a new server and has a moment to breathe.
Once the css is finalized I can bring out the black-and-white scheme which will be the one most useful for putting skins on top of. I'm hoping to have three options for that, a dropdown, a sidebar, and a horizontal dropdown (a la the old XColibur scheme).
On that note, I would like, at some point, to have a graphic interface on the site by which users could either a) cut and paste a premade style sheet or b) select colors that would generate a style sheet to individually customize the site scheme. This is a bit of a pipe dream, but I still dream it. So if anyone is or knows of someone who has programming experience in Perl and database driven applications and might be willing to donate some time and skill to the project, I'd love to hear it.
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About this journal
IJ_siteschemes is where everyone involved in designing site schemes for IJ can exchange notes, documents and ideas. Membership is currently moderated, so please leave a comment for branchandroot if you'd like to join in.
September 2015
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State of the Schemes
Hi. Great to hear you like the new schemes! I'm afraid they still don't work in Opera. Hmmmm. I think this may be an issue with your Opera copy. Or possibly the cache. I asked Brawlyball to take a look at the schemes using the latest Opera on XP and she said it looked fine after the width fix was applied, but from a few other things she's said it sounds like Opera's cache mechanism is a bit wonky at times. Okay, well I did try it on all three of my computers - a PC and two laptops, and it was the same thing. And they are all unique copies of XP and of Opera. Actually, make that four as I tried it on my husbands PC too. So the site wasn't behaving differently on four different computers, it was behaving identically yet the software on all computers is in effect 'unique' to that computer. When I update Opera I do so on all computers, i.e. download each time, I don't copy across the first copy and use that. First follow up
Okay, I tried it with fixed width and before I did that I did yet another clear of my private data (cache) and cookies. But actually it's even worse. As you can see. Hmm. Interesting. Hi. Yeah, I used a fresh download of Opera on my XP to test. Didn't change any preferences or anything, just went right to IJ and logged in. Sorry for the delay in answering this, I had issues with my laptop. *nods to Brawlyball's comment* Looks like that's it, then. I will see about where we can post a note about doing a clean install of Opera, definitely on PCs and possibly on Macs as well; perhaps in the FAQs. Thank you for following up on this. Apologies for not answering this sooner, but I was having problems with the fonts on my laptop. Opera Problem, and gray boxes, and hard coding on tables.
Problem with Opera: missing all the tabs. In all versions of Opera I tested: 9.25, 9.23, and 9.5 Beta. Re: Opera Problem, and gray boxes, and hard coding on tables.
Yeah, the old schemes aren't my work and involve a great deal of Javascript. To report bugs in those, you need to go to the Support area and submit a report. I know you said that you're working on the smaller fonts, but I wanted to let you know that in You mean, IE is showing the posts and comments in TNR on your computer? The whole site should be in Verdana, at this point. *puzzles over this a bit* Could you possibly take a quick look at your browser options and tell me whether you have any user styles set, or whether you have any boxes checked that say things like "Always use my fonts/colors"? Right in IE, everything shows in TNR (which I rather like), in Firefox the original post is in TNR and the comments in verdana (Which I don't like it). Hmmm. There's nothing in any of the site style sheets that even mentions Times, so somehow the browsers must be overriding the font rule. I don't know if there's anything we can actually do about that, but if you can tell me your computer's platform (Vist or XP or OSX or whatever) and what versions of those browsers you're using, I'll see if there's anything we can find. I made caps: All right, that is not Times New Roman. The whole page is in Verdana, it's just in different font sizes. The entry font is picking up the small-font setting while the comment-font is not, at least in Firefox. They looked like different fonts to me, but I guess it's the size. Hi! I just wanted to say again how excellent all of the work that this crew has accomplished! I love that the font is verdana, and a smaller font was managed! the only slight issue i've found is that over the last couple of days in the COMMENT sections, the smaller is REALLY small. I snapped a screenshot to show. Is it possible to get it back to being the same font size as what's in the entries? Sometimes it's hard to read. Argh! I was hoping to make the comment font match with the entry font. Can you tell me what browser and operating system you use? I may be able to fine tune it some more. Hmmm. Well, the comment font did match the entry font at first! And then there was a change so I'm not sure if there's a way to pinpoint what triggered it exactly. But to answer your question, I currently use Internet Explorer V.06 and Windows XP! If you're using IE6 it's a browser difference. The older IE versions interpret style rules differently than, say, FireFox or IE7. I'll add a rule targeted for 6 to the next update, then, since it was already working in that! Okay, I've fished around with the style sheets and a bunch of different browsers and they're behaving quite oddly. I've given Squeaky an update to upload and see if it fixes the problem. If you still have tiny comments in a day or two, would you let me know so I can try something else? Hi! I hope you don't mind me butting in, but I've been having the same problem too. Comments text is just tiny, while the post text is larger. No problem. Could you check once more, now? I think the changes went live about an hour after this comment. I don't know what you guys did but just wanted to let you know that the font is the same now in comments and entry for m! Thanks! :*** Hi, I would also like to register a complaint about the new font size for comments in the beta schemes. One of the things I loved most about them when they were first released was the easy-to-read font sizes, but now I really have to strain to read comments. I know the schemes are still being worked on and I hope this particular change isn't going to be permanent because daily headaches are not something I want to associate with IJ. The small-font option is planned as a separate scheme. Worksafe is currently being used for testing is all. I'll remind Squeaky to make up the new template as soon as he has time, so we have both small and regular available, but he's very busy looking into the server slowdown just now so it might take a little while. Thanks for the response! I can definitely understand about wanting to get the slowdown issues taken care of first. Just out of curiosity but is it because they're still in beta that the new siteschemes never seem to 'stick'? I have to keep switching back to them every time I log in. *blinks* That should most definitely not be happening. If I'm understanding correctly, whenever you log out you find that your scheme has reverted to the site default, upon logging back in? |