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About this journal
IJ_siteschemes is where everyone involved in designing site schemes for IJ can exchange notes, documents and ideas. Membership is currently moderated, so please leave a comment for branchandroot if you'd like to join in.

September 2015
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Squeaky [userpic]
Volunteers Needed

Please comment here if you would like to volunteer with working on the site schemes. Right now we need someone familiar with CSS in older versions of Internet Explorer.

Comments

How complex are we talking for the CSS. I'm just learning now but if I can help I will. :D

Please. If you see problems in the IE versions that you can fix, that would be wonderfully helpful. Thank you!

I've got some older IE (4.01, 5.01, 5.5 & 6.0) on my XP and IE 5.2 on my Mac and I pretty much know my way around CSS.

Can I help too?

Yes, please! I /think/ most of the basic glitches are now hammered out, so if you could take a look at the site in the older versions and see if there's anything that needs fixing, I would appreciate the help to absolutely no end. Thank you so much for volunteering.

Cool :D
Any particular scheme you want looked at first?

Either would be just fine. They're based on the same code, and the layout is pretty much identical with a few differences in the menu section. My latest working style sheets are here if you want to take a look at those. Also, karma_apple found us a wonderful bit of script that will let us specify css rules for specific platforms and browsers, so you don't have to worry about the IE code working for anything but IE, and if 5 is different than 6, we can separate them. (I love that bit of script so very much.)

Oh, and you have an invitation for membership to this comm.

Thank you :)

I went through them with IE 5.01 this afternoon and made some notes. I've got tomorrow off, so I can look through 5.5 and 6 and see what we've got. And I'll be sure to read over those stylesheets tonight.

So you can get it backwardly compatible with IE but not working with Opera.

*Gives up*

No one's reported bugs in Opera, at least not to me. That usually helps. What problems are you having?

*Sighs*

I have been reporting the fact that IJ doesn't work probably with Opera to Squeaky ever since August last year.

I've opened a support request (Squeak told me to) but nothing - all that happened was that it was turned to private.

Where do you want me to start?

Overall (I use New Tweak) (not just the new schemes)

1. The menu bars don't appear unless it is masked as Firefox.

2. I cannot upload user pictures Instead IJ wants me to download a file.

3. I cannot edit my profile. Instead IJ wants me to download a file.

4. I cannot edit entries without it throwing up a weird error - ironically the edit is done, but . . .

With the new schemes in particular everything simply goes over the to left hand side of the screen.

*takes a slow breath*

If the bugs you're worried about have to do with the core programming and not with the new site-scheme css, which is the backward compatibility in question, then why, if I may ask, did you come over to this particular comm and post such a rude and off-topic comment?

This comm is for working out the new site schemes. I am working on them as a volunteer, in my after-work hours, and doing the best I can to debug them and get them running in a compliant, customizable fashion for as many users as possible. This isn't especially easy. If you are not interested in assisting, please do not interrupt. It is very discourteous.

If you wish to make an actual bug report, pertaining to the new schemes' layout rather than programming issues, a better description, your browser and OS versions, and screencaps if at all possible would be helpful.

I am sorry that you think I was rude, that was never my intention at all. However, your response is not overly civil.

When I made my original comment about the new code being made to work in older versions of IE but not Opera, it was to Squeaky's comment. When you stepped in and mentioned that no one had said there were any issues with Opera and what were the problems, I thought that you were working officially with Squeaky and thus were interested in the whole issue. I apologise for making that incorrect assumption.

I came to his Comm because I am interested in the whole thing, including the new schemes, working in Opera. I can't offer any coding help, but as a user of Opera I can at least say what the problems are - and I did point out the problems with the new schemes. So I was not being discourteous, I was genuinely trying to help get the whole thing working with Opera.

I apologise that I misunderstood your interest and your part in the whole thing - but I really did think that you were asking about Opera generally. I do not think my comments were rude or discourteous - I'm sorry you took them that way. It is not in my nature to be either and I'm very upset that you think I am/it was.

The comment was not meant to be off-topic, not at all. You asked, I answered, I was not rude. I would be more than happy to do screen caps of the problem that the new schemes have in Opera.

I referred to your initial comment, which was quite dismissive of the work currently going on in this comm. I appreciate that you did not intend it that way, but posting it here, in response to a call for volunteers, was very inappropriate.

Here is a screen grabs for WorkSafe (both drop down and sidebar).

Dramatic gives exactly the same results.

I haven't uploaded all of them, as I didn't want to clog up the comments.

Worksafe Sidebar


Worksafe Drop Down


  • My OS is Windows XP (with SP2)

  • The version of Opera I am running is 9.25 (the latest version)

    I have tested the new layouts on a PC and two laptops, all running XP (with SP2) and Opera 9.25.

  • Hey, that's neat. I've got Opera 9.25 too, except on a Mac, and I get something totally different:
    Worksafe Sidebar
    Worksafe Dropsdown

    I can replicate the weirdness you get when you edit pictures and userinfo... I wonder what's doing it.

    Also stumped

    The squeezing-up looks like a width or float issue, but there's no float in a position to cause that. I'm trying giving the outermost div a width:100%; I don't suppose you could install Opera on your PC and take a look this evening, once Squeaky's uploaded the new sheets? If not, that's cool, I'll try to track down someone who has a PC copy running.

    Re: Also stumped

    Sure, installing Opera's no problem. I'm curious to get to the bottom of it.

    Re: Also stumped

    I downloaded Opera 9.25 on XP and went through the Schemes.

    And... encountered no problems. The formatting was nice, and I was even able to update my info and mess around uploading/deleting icons without getting that message to download a file. I can provide screenshots if you need them. If somebody at IJ Central Command fixed it, they did a great job.

    Hey,

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    I downloaded Opera 9.25 on XP and went through the Schemes.

    And... encountered no problems. The formatting was nice, and I was even able to update my info and mess around uploading/deleting icons without getting that message to download a file. I can provide screenshots if you need them. If somebody at IJ Central Command fixed it, they did a great job.

    Hey, <lj-user="nakeisha"> is it working now for you too?

    Thank you, that's more helpful. I'll see if I can track down the problem; it looks like a stray float element or a width issue, though other platforms do not seem to be showing it.

    Hi. It's been a while so I'm just dropping a note to let you know I haven't dicked off on you guys.

    I've been going through the CSS in the older versions of IE, there's the expected stuff, the Peekaboo bug, some dimensional bugs... that's not so bad, easy to fix. But there's also some weird stuff that I'm going to need to work at for a bit.

    *laughing* Thank you! I'm planning to write a 'state of the scheme' post tomorrow, so that's good to know for when I update people. Don't worry about it taking a little while; there are a few other things that need to get done too, and all of us are pretty busy, goodness knows.