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Hal knows the strongest thing in the universe is (willpower) wrote in doors,
@ 2013-11-23 21:58:00

Entry tags:

batman, green arrow, green lantern, superman, wonder woman

[Justice League+Ollie]
[Justice League, plus Ollie]

It's too quiet.

	Re: JL+O onerule 2013-11-24 04:39 am UTC (link)
	I know we'll have our disagreements. It is inevitable. But when we disagree, there is no risk of sensitive information falling into the wrong hands. [...] ~~You're asking for something I cannot~~ I've never seen him express interest in joining our cause. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: JL+O whipoftruth 2013-11-24 04:46 am UTC (link)
	You are right. We do not need absolute trust at this point, but being afraid one of us will turn the others in at any time, that is a high risk. I discussed this with Oliver at length, and I believe he is not interested, Hal. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: JL+O willpower 2013-11-24 05:16 am UTC (link)
	If he thought we trusted him, he'd want to be back here. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: JL+O whipoftruth 2013-11-24 05:20 am UTC (link)
	No, I do not think that is true. He wants to work with them, for his own reasons. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: JL+O willpower 2013-11-24 05:23 am UTC (link)
	They gave him something to believe in when he needed it. We weren't there then, but we're here now. He knows this isn't right. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: JL+O whipoftruth 2013-11-24 05:25 am UTC (link)
	We cannot force people to join us. That is not how the League works, you know that. It is a willing collaboration. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: JL+O willpower 2013-11-24 05:32 am UTC (link)
	Him joining them wasn't a choice, it was a lack of options. If we want him back, we have to give him something better. If it was any one of you, any, we wouldn't close our fucking doors, we'd go out there and fight for you. That's what League means. We don't just pack up and go home the first time we hit a snag! (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: JL+O whipoftruth 2013-11-24 05:36 am UTC (link)
	Getting angry at one another is not going to solve anything. I am not suggesting we pack up and go home, I am suggesting we build it again. Right now we have to build our reputation again, we have to build the world's trust. It is no easy task. I think of the greater good, always, you know that. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: JL+O willpower 2013-11-24 05:41 am UTC (link)
	That doesn't mean we leave him behind so they can stuff more lies into his head. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: JL+O whipoftruth 2013-11-24 05:43 am UTC (link)
	No one is saying to leave him behind. But considering his deal with the government, working with us could be very dangerous to him. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: JL+O willpower 2013-11-24 05:47 am UTC (link)
	They consider anyone working with us to be dangerous. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: JL+O whipoftruth 2013-11-24 05:51 am UTC (link)
	I mean dangerous specifically to him. He will be arrested and his life as a free citizen over. That is not something to treat lightly. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: JL+O willpower 2013-11-24 05:53 am UTC (link)
	We're all criminals to them. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: JL+O whipoftruth 2013-11-24 05:55 am UTC (link)
	But it matters more to him. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: JL+O willpower 2013-11-24 05:58 am UTC (link)
	He matters more to me than he'll ever matter to them. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: JL+O whipoftruth 2013-11-24 06:03 am UTC (link)
	He is an individual. He makes his own decisions. I am not going to force him into one, it has to be his choice. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: JL+O willpower 2013-11-24 06:09 am UTC (link)
	And sometimes you need your friends to tell you when you've made a stupid-ass decision. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: JL+O whipoftruth 2013-11-24 06:10 am UTC (link)
	How has yelling the same thing over and over at him gone for you, Hal? (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

willpower, 2013-11-24 06:12 am UTC

whipoftruth, 2013-11-24 06:14 am UTC

willpower, 2013-11-24 06:16 am UTC

whipoftruth, 2013-11-24 06:24 am UTC

	Re: JL+O onerule 2013-11-24 05:37 am UTC (link)
	We have to bribe him, is that it? This League should be compromised of those who want to be a part of it. He's had the opportunity to join us, we gave him the perfect chance when half the JLA was imprisoned. He decided to take the government's deal instead. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: JL+O willpower 2013-11-24 05:45 am UTC (link)
	No. [...] How do you fix someone that's been brainwashed? You're the thinky one. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	JL onerule 2013-11-24 06:05 am UTC (link)
	[Lock change.] We would need to determine the method, how it was done, and attempt to reverse it. Assuming he was brainwashed, which we don't know. I highly doubt Oliver would willingly allow himself to be tested. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: JL willpower 2013-11-24 06:10 am UTC (link)
	I know he has. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: JL onerule 2013-11-24 06:38 am UTC (link)
	We would still need concrete evidence. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: JL willpower 2013-11-24 07:03 am UTC (link)
	Talk with him. There are places where things don't add up and if I can see them, you'll be able to. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: JL onerule 2013-11-24 07:10 am UTC (link)
	~~In person would be~~ [...] Alright. (Reply to this) (Parent)