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Anti-Defamation League & prominent Christian scientist blast show linking Darwin and Hitler

LJ-SEC: (ORIGINALLY POSTED BY [info]idragosani)

Seems an interview with Francis Collins is being used without his prior knowledge of it airing:


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I found a very interesting article on the Left Behind series.

If a Muslim were to write an Islamic version of the last book in the Left Behind series, Glorious Appearing, and publish it across the Middle East, Americans would go beserk. Yet tens of millions of Christians eagerly await and celebrate an End Time when everyone who disagrees with them will be murdered in ways that make Islamic beheading look like a bridal shower. Jesus -- who apparently has a much nastier streak than we have been led to believe -- merely speaks and "the bodies of the enemy are ripped wide open down the middle." In the book Christians have to drive carefully to avoid "hitting splayed and filleted corpses of men and women and horses" Even as the riders’ tongues are melting in their mouths and they are being wide open gutted by God’s own hand, the poor damned horses are getting the same treatment. Sort of a divinely inspired version of "Fuck you and the horse you rode in on."

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Morning news round


Great article in today's Salon Magazine (day pass or registration required) about a scientist defending evolution.

Salon: Stephen Meyer, one of the vice presidents of the Discovery Institute, says, "Contrary to media reports, intelligent design is not a religious-based idea but instead an evidence-based scientific theory." You write in "Why Darwin Matters" that the "veneer of science in ID theory is there purposefully to cover up the religious agenda." How do you know that?

Michael Shermer: Because I asked them and they told me. I know these guys. I have debated Meyer at conferences and gone out to beers with William Dembski, another major I.D. theorist. They're all evangelical born-again Christians. They all believe in Christ as their savior. They believed it before they got into all this stuff. I've asked them that if the main tenets of intelligent design turned out to be false, would they then give up their belief in Christ? No, they say. And that's because they believe in Christ for reasons that have nothing to do with their theory.

They fit the science to match their beliefs?

Yes, in my opinion, that's all they're doing.

So what's the real agenda of I.D.?

They want the Judeo-Christian worldview accepted into American public life as policy. But the First Amendment says you're not supposed to do that. America is based on a diversity of beliefs and was founded on the principle of religious freedom. The conservatives want to blend public life with private life. But religion is private. It's nobody's business. Politicians have to announce they believe in God, and God bless America. But religion as public policy leads to a reduction of liberty and freedom for those who don't believe. It makes it harder for us to express our own beliefs without fear of condemnation.

Let's say that we passed legislation that requires the teaching of one dominant religion in public schools, which right now is Judeo-Christian. Hooray! Everybody's happy. Now let's say that Islam is the dominant religion 500 years from now. It most likely will be Europe. You still want that law on the books? Girls in public schools will have to wear burqas and, in fact, there will be no education for them after sixth grade. You still want the dominant religion legalized in America? No way!

Today's LA Times has an article about the anti-abortion activists and their crisis pregnancy centers now targeting inner city black people.

Critics contend that pregnancy centers routinely mislead women seeking neutral advice on their options. A report in July from congressional Democrats said center counselors often overstate the medical risks posed by abortion.

Skeptics also argue that the same white conservatives supporting urban anti-abortion initiatives oppose other social policies that might help minority single mothers and their children.

"These predatory fanatics don't lift a finger to help the children who are born unwanted and unplanned," said Jatrice Martel Gaiter, head of the Washington-area Planned Parenthood chapter.

"In these centers of deception, they leave young parents at best with a box of Pampers and a prayer," she said. "They leave people even more vulnerable than when they walked through the door, without any information about how to avoid a future unintended pregnancy."

Durig acknowledged that her center recommends abstinence, not birth control, to clients, but said its services go beyond opposing abortion. The center offers parenting classes; a basement storage room is stacked with bins of donated baby clothes.

Pampers and a prayer... isn't that about right?

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More on the Sunday School teacher firing...


This talkback horrified me:


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Banned Books of the Bible

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Cross-posted to my LJ and posted here with Sunfell's permission.

I watched this show on the History Channel, and it was fascinating seeing the politics that went into deciding just what got put into the Bible...and a nice response to all the "God's literal Word" believers.

The firing of the female Sunday school teacher makes the fact that several of the professors on this show were females with PhDs in Religious Studies all the sweeter.

Books that got left out included the following:

The Life of Adam and Eve - A retelling of the Genesis story, with additional material on Adam and Eve's lives after they were expelled from the Garden. In this version, Eve is much more of a victim of deception than a knowing participant in disobedience. Either instead of or along with the serpent, Satan appears to Eve in angelic form, so that she thinks a messenger of God is speaking to her.

After they are expelled, she asks Adam if he wants to kill her, because with her death, God might let him return to Eden. His response is, "How could I raise my hand to flesh of my flesh?"

Well. A book that doesn't have woman as the Bringer of Sin plus a Bibilical injunction against wife-beating? Two strikes, yeerre outtathere!

The Book of Enoch: This book goes much deeper into the "And there were giants in the land" bit in Genesis where angels mate with human women and produce cannibalistic giants. This ultimately leads to Azazel and his rebellious angels being bound and cast out. No one knows why this was left out.

A Gnostic Gospel of Mary Magdalene, who was not only not-a-prostitute, but was one of the chief disciples of Christ, who received particular mystic teaching. No physical relationship was implied, but the idea that a woman might have been over the male disciples was not going to fly.

The Infancy Gospel by Thomas: This was the most interesting one to me because it dealt with Jesus' childhood. According to one of the professors on the show, he was a divine brat at age 5, mocking his teachers and shoving one of his little friends off a roof, then resurrecting him. By 8, Jesus is using his powers to help his parents, and by 12, he's synched up with the gospels. While the early church couldn't deal with RottenBabyJesus, the professor (and I agree) liked the book because it taught that anyone, including the son of God, could change and grow with time.

A life of Mary, the mother, that claimed her own conception was divine and that Joseph had children before he married her, so she remained a virgin. This was left out because it was felt that it emphasized Mary over Jesus.

The Revelation of John was on the 'iffy' list of books to include. The Bishop working up the 'in' list preferred another apocalypse story, The Apocolypse of Peter, but John was ultimately picked.

Current Mood: thoughtful
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