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Evolution Fight Shifts Direction in Kansas Vote


August 3, 2006
From The New York Times
Score one for the monkeys! )

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America, not Legally a Christian Nation


Just some food for thought. Legally, according to the Constitution, we are not in any way a Christian nation. No, this isn’t a First Amendment argument. In fact, it’s probably nothing you’d expect.

Under Article VI of the Constitution:

This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.

Treaties shall be the supreme law of the land. Any treaty this nation adheres to shall be considered as authoritative as the Constitution itself. Now here’s the funny part. Article 11 of the 1796 Treaty of Tripoli says:
“As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquillity, of Mussulmen; and, as the said States never entered into any war, or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties, that no pretext arising from religious opinions, shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.”

The United States is not a Christian nation, according to a treaty with the Barbary states of Tripoli, Algiers, and Tunis. Additionally, the treaty says that we shouldn’t wage any sort of holy war or crusade, or antagonize Muslim nations. And as a treaty, that is the “law of the land.”

Just… some food for thought.

Taken from Indisputable Truth

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Lobbying for Armageddon


Some influential evangelical leaders are lobbying for an attack on Iran. But it's not about geopolitics -- it's about bringing about the End Times. )

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Daniel Lapin

LJ-SEC: (ORIGINALLY POSTED BY [info]jehovahsfitness)

I'm sure by now we all know how important Jews are and will be in opposing the Christian Right. Aside from being the proverbial canary in the coalmine of religious liberty, Judaism is probably the most respected minority religion among Christians. It has often been Jews, not secular humanists, that have stood up to preferential treatment of Christianity in the public sphere.

For all these reasons and more I find it incomprehensible and saddening to learn of the work of Rabbi Daniel Lapin. Peruse the Wikipedia article and you'll see what I mean. The guy is friends with Karl Rove and Tom DeLay and good ol' Jack Abramoff donated to his Jewish-Christian think tank and was a board member. Here's a nice sample of his quotes:
"the 700 Club is one of my big all-time favorites."
"the principles of the Republican Party and the convictions of our president more closely parallel the moral vision of the God of Abraham than those of anyone else,"
"Wealth is a consequence of doing the right thing,"
He has denounced recycling as "The sacred sacrament of secularism."
The Anti-Defamation League and its allies are "dangerous organizations, organizations that are driving a wedge between American Jews and Christians."

Both Lapin and Medved promote conservative political principles, inter-mixed with traditional religious observance. Lapin was one of the Jewish voices in support of Mel Gibson's movie The Passion of the Christ, and was a strong supporter of the efforts by Terri Schiavo's parents to keep their daughter alive. He is also a strong supporter of Pope Pius XII as a righteous gentile, a term he believes should be renamed "righteous Christian".

Lapin believes the United States of America is the most "Jewish-friendly" state in history because of its strong Christian heritage. He argues that it is better for Jews to promote shared Judeo-Christian values with the majority than promote solely Jewish values. In Lapins' view, the biggest danger to the Jewish people is not Christianity but secular liberalism. He has also lamented that the Holocaust Memorial Museum presents anti-Christian propaganda

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Evolution schemevolution


This Daily Kos diary takes a look at the US and its battles with anti-scientific religious people through European eyes:

The recent controversy over evolution in Kansas has once again caused the rest of the world to view the US educational system with ridicule and disdain.

It's not so much that people choose believe that God created the universe, or that evolution was guided by a higher power, it's more the ignorance of those that are attempting to insert religion into the science classroom.

In Europe we have an answer to this, which is to teach a separate subject called Religious Education or Religious Studies. This is not in-school preaching (which does occur in many state run European schools), but rather the study of religion and its history. In the UK, for example, we learned about the history and meaning behind Greek and Roman Mythology, Christianity, Buddhism, Judaism and Islam.

So like I said, it's not that people wish to pursue their particular religious beliefs that open the US to ridicule and derision, it's when fundamentalist Christians are allowed to interfere with the school's curriculum.

Take for example the attempt by the Kansas State School board to have the words "Evolution is a scientific theory, not a fact" stuck on the front cover of science textbooks dealing with that subject.

Interesting points this writer makes.

Thing is, the rot is spreading. Our students are no longer able to keep up with Europe, Asia, and India in the sciences, because they are no longer taught proper science. Our colleges are no longer attracting the large numbers of foreign students to study here, and when they do, they leave immediately when they graduate.

We are no longer on top of things- the religiously motivated rot has set in.

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Random Thougths that gather strength in the night

LJ-SEC: (ORIGINALLY POSTED BY [info]navytron89) Last night on the way home from work, I was thinking about -
"Do Fundies and Dominionists believe in life on other planets?"

I was curious to know if they do or are they so Luddite/Flat Earther in their mindset that they can't understand that there is the possibility of life on other worlds. 

While I received part of my answer here at Teens-4-Christ webpage with missions2005 response. 

But I find it amazing that Fundies/Dominionist don't believe in life on other planets; yet all those books and films made about aliens has to be read by someone other that just the sci-fi fans and communities? 

Part of this came from a coversation with a Dobson supporter who I work with and daily I keep pointing out Dobson's faults and twisted logic based on scriptures. I was actually surprised he didn't believe in aliens himself, yet I've seen him read sci-fi books and not just the Bible.

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he's a convert

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Heat wave makes Pat Robertson a global warming believer

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