Jazz (silverknight) wrote in chaosu_ooc,
@ 2008-05-17 12:20:00

My apologies
This is meant for the players of L and Light (and for our mod):

I seem to have made quite a mess.

If you want me to delete my last two journal entries, so that you can continue with the game as if the post never happened, please tell me.

[Edit: Dear Mod, would you please help us clear something up? We have a plot idea and are not sure if it is permitable to go through with it.]

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franksunderland
2008-05-17 06:43 pm UTC (link)

Since you also informed Frank where Ryuzaki is... do you want to delete that also?

Or you could give Frank a compelling reason why he Must Not Tell (such as lying that Ryuzaki is all right and returning, etc. -- you could even post as yourself but pretend it's disguised as Ryuzaki posting -- Jazz can probably do that and Frank's no hacker to know) and he'll just go get involved in that other thread.

I'll wait for Frank to post until I know, because I don't want to mess up the game either. (But Frank's so worried... :()

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	franksunderland 2008-05-17 06:44 pm UTC (link)
	(Sorry if my suggestions sound dumb... I won't post again about it until someone gets back to me, and I'll be offline in the afternoon here anyway...) (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	franksunderland 2008-05-17 06:48 pm UTC (link)
	Argh, I just remembered that Frank would still know something is wrong, because he Knows Things. But he might believe a convincing lie that Ryuzaki wasn't all right but was coming back. Sorry I'm messing this up. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	silverknight 2008-05-17 07:09 pm UTC (link)
	I wouldn't see anything against Frank bringing in the cavalry. They could still arrive just after the bad stuff happened. That wouldn't be 'disturbing the game', right? And as I was informed by the modlyness, I didn't do anything wrong per se. shrugs But I'm still unsure, I say wait for the mod to give her ok. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

franksunderland
2008-05-17 07:14 pm UTC (link)

Yeah, it would take a while for Frank to get people together to do anything, I think. They could meet Ryuzaki coming back from what happened, even, or have him be spotted before everyone leaves (or however that's going to work; I didn't read the whole thread there at this point.)

But if you want me to wait for the mod before Frank posts I'm fine with that. We'll just pretend he posted Right Away.

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	silverknight 2008-05-17 07:22 pm UTC (link)
	That idea sounds really good. Would make the story more interesting et al. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	luke_lawliet 2008-05-17 07:24 pm UTC (link)
	thumbs up (Reply to this) (Parent)

	pyro_madness 2008-05-17 08:00 pm UTC (link)
	Mod Lady keeps strange hours sometimes. XD She'll see it, there's no rush or anything (especially considering that we do have a few players on hiatus). (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	(Anonymous) 2008-05-17 08:03 pm UTC (link)
	My net access isn't what it could be right now (that will improve in a few days, and I'm still addicted enough to hit the net cafe a lot and not need a hiatus myself.) I just want Frank to be seen as having acted right away in subjective game time... I like thinking he realized he can't leave people in trouble and he still feels guilty about Henry Townshend in his canon.) (Reply to this) (Parent)

luke_lawliet
2008-05-17 06:55 pm UTC (link)

Honestly, I'm open-minded to any direction this game could take. I think it's interesting, personally, how Jazz's words affected Light's actions, and I don't really see any need for revision... but that's just me. Light's player has a definite idea for where she wants the scene to go, whereas, well, I'm definitely the captive party, lol.

I do think that L would want to be rescued, though, which might be a good reason for him to not be. I've been thinking about changes the character will undergo after this event; everyone will be seeing a more humble and withdrawn L, and his obsession with killing Light will become quieter but more intense, regardless of what happens.

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	silverknight 2008-05-17 07:09 pm UTC (link)
	points to the answer given to Frank's player (Reply to this) (Parent)

Reposted for clarity

franksunderland
2008-05-17 07:23 pm UTC (link)

I'm an outsider to that scene, which I'm not finished reading... but I understand what you're saying about L not being rescued. If Frank knows what's going on he kind of has to say something, but I can add an OOC note to the post making sure nothing happens until Ryuzaki comes back I think? (i.e. people will ask questions or make plans but no one will start a thread rescuing him?)

[Frank's going to feel just awful though, and want to be nurturing in his incredibly awkward way, even if he doesn't know the details... which is not the important part here, but all the same he is.]

Anyway, at this point I'm going to wait and have Frank post when the mod says to.

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	Re: Reposted for clarity luke_lawliet 2008-05-17 07:27 pm UTC (link)
	That sounds really good... the scene actually isn't finished, but we're working on it. awwww.... I have to admit, the character of Frank is really, really growing on me. I like both Frank AND Jazz, actually. Frank can be awkward and sweet... but Ryuzaki will probably be snappish. Just a warning. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

Re: Reposted for clarity

franksunderland
2008-05-17 07:44 pm UTC (link)

Well, so far my plan is for Frank to post after the mod says it's OK, but to add an OOC note that no one should start a thread knocking on Hell's door for L. At least I hope that's how this stuff works.

Really? XD I make poor Frank out of whole cloth so much I'm kind of charmed if people like him. And while he has little to no social skills he's not going to expect L not to be snappish, and he's not the smothering type anyway. He's just going to feel guilty and project stuff about his son onto L, but he's not going to push comfort on him. (Of course, his player having read one too many fics about Pyramid Head and James isn't going to help all this...)

His (probable) son wasn't the easiest person on Earth to get along with anyway, in my opinion, and neither was his daughter-in-law toward the end of her life, so I think Frank is used to "snappish" if anything.

Er, sorry for rambling.

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	Re: Reposted for clarity luke_lawliet 2008-05-17 07:55 pm UTC (link)
	Parental Replacement Projection= WIN. L would be confused enough by that to totally need it, and added to the fact that he's reminded of a father-figure by Frank, this could be a very interesting relationship. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	Re: Reposted for clarity franksunderland 2008-05-17 09:07 pm UTC (link)
	I'll just have to keep Frank IC -- with his natural desire to mind his own business if L pushes him away he could go away, especially since he doesn't read social cues all that well, but that wouldn't be as good as some parental h/c type stuff. XD (Reply to this) (Parent)

	holylance 2008-05-17 08:23 pm UTC (link)
	Meanwhile, Kain will be concerned in his own roundabout way and wonder where the hell L went and what happened. Haha, oh man. (Reply to this) (Parent)

1st_lord
2008-05-18 01:32 am UTC (link)

I've read all of the comments to this post, but...could someone put the plot idea clearly to me?

Or am I correct in thinking (please add any details i've left out), that due to the things Jazz has done, you all want Jazz and Frank to bring in the cavalry, so to speak, and rescue L/Ryuzaki even though it's 'too late', after Light gets his way?

Personally, I would be okay this, but is the Light-player okay with it? I mean, this isn't really a huge mess. You're fine, Delilah! =3 Jazz acted IC, as is everyone else. That's really all there is to it, no matter how messy situations get. That's part of the fun in roleplaying as a group isn't it? Every character has his or her own intentions to carry out.

So I like your idea, personally.

Also, as an announcement to everyone - please remember you can take your time with plots! The timeline does not literally have a day pass after a day passes in our reality. People can be slow and take their time with the story - make it an enjoyable ride. It doesn't have to be hectic. So Frank is safe - even if his reply is 'late' in our time, that doesn't mean his reply has to be late in the story!

Otherwise that's ridiculous - we live in varying time frames. I would get annoyed if people didn't treat character responses as timely just because they're awake when i'm asleep, and vice versa. I expect people to have lives. =3 I just wanted to say this so everyone knows they don't have to fret, since the Frank-player mentioned being worried about it.

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franksunderland
2008-05-18 05:30 am UTC (link)

you all want Jazz and Frank to bring in the cavalry, so to speak, and rescue L/Ryuzaki even though it's 'too late', after Light gets his way?

Essentially. Since the L player doesn't want L rescued and I think the Light player doesn't want that either, I thought Frank would post but with an OOC note not to start any threads with the "cavalry" actually leaving Asgard and getting to L... Also because that's a huge undertaking and would start a big fight with Hell... not that that's necessarily wrong to do but I actually kind of didn't want one right now especially if the L and Light players don't want that either.

And I figured Frank didn't have to post right away for it to be right away in the game, though I do appreciate the clarification. But it would look weird if he heard L really was in huge trouble and then got into another thread or something, so I wanted to figure out what was going on and then, well, post.

And I'm rambling.

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	franksunderland 2008-05-18 05:32 am UTC (link)
	For now I guess I'll wait to hear if that's what the Light player wants. I feel almost like I'm "butting in" since the L/Light thing isn't my thread but essentially Frank is the only one on Asgard side who knows what's happening to L. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

yagami_light
2008-05-18 07:53 pm UTC (link)

Sorry for not noticing this thread immediately. ^^;

Well, Light-muse is going to have some mercy afterwards (if you can call it that) and fix up all of L's wounds and such and clean him up, then sneak off to the woods and leave him somewhere close to Asgard. He'll then make a post on his journal basically saying 'Hey, Asgardians, you might want to check nearby in the forest for a member of your team. Also, be sure to make sure he understands not to try and sneak up on me again in my very own room. If he does, I swear there will be a repeat of what's happened here.' or something of that sort.

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franksunderland
2008-05-18 08:00 pm UTC (link)

I'll go ahead and post as Frank then, in a little bit, with an OOC note for no one to actually try to invade the other side until your post hits and they don't need to. Frank's going to try to keep everyone from letting the other side know anyone told though, because he knows someone will be in trouble for telling.

(I kind of like the idea that Frank cared and tried to help, even though he's going to feel awful that it was too late, because he has a history of not being able to help enough, canon and fanon. It will make things interesting...)

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	yagami_light 2008-05-18 08:36 pm UTC (link)
	That sounds good. I'm looking forward to seeing how Frank acts towards L..and how L acts toward everyone else as well. Quite possibly just my muse wanting to see just how much damage he's done, but, you know... (Reply to this) (Parent)

	silverknight 2008-05-18 02:21 pm UTC (link)
	Thanks for clearing that up. I was probably over-cautious after my two journal post before, so... shrugs I really didn't want to do anything wrong. (Reply to this) (Parent)