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I see via many comments and support tickets that a lot of users were surprised about that timing of the purge happening. I apologize for not being more transparent about the timing of it. We don't like to specify a specific time of an upcoming purge as it can vary by journal and specifying a specific start time has caused issues in the past.

That said we should have announced or put into the notifications for the re-start of the purge that the date would be Saturday 3/18 not exactly 14 days from the date the emails were sent as many users expected it to be. We based that date on giving users an extra 2 weeks from the date the purge was supposed to initially run on due to the outage we incurred.

The original date for accounts to purge was supposed to be March 4th. But since we went offline on 2/27 and had to roll data back to before the purge initially started we obviously didn't purge accounts on that date. When we were finally up and stable enough to restart the purge, we decided to set accounts so they would purge on 3/18, exactly 2 weeks after the original purge and still 10 full days after notifications were set. This allowed users not only the 9 days we were up before the outage, but an additional 10 days after the additional notification to recover their accounts. We felt that this gave users ample time to recover their accounts and included a full weekend before the purge.

The mistake we made was in communication. We did discuss this in a public forum with users, but did not advertise it in either the emails we sent or in any posts about the purge. We admit that this is a mistake on our part and do apologize for it. Unfortunately do to the nature of how purges work, the data in these accounts is not recoverable. In the future we will be sure to provide better information to our users so that you can properly save any accounts that you do not want to be purged.
  • (Anonymous)
    While I understand people's frustrations on the matter and perhaps some of the communication could have been handled better, you did tell people that the purge was happening on more than one occasion. You're not responsible for the users who do not come back and check on their accounts after notifying them.

    The site going down wasn't helpful for anyone and I still believe that you did the best that you could do given the situation. People may be upset over it and I understand that it might have been because of a confusion in communication, but the purge notifications should have gone through. You gave them time. If they didn't do it - that's on them.

    In the end - you work so hard for us and I want you to know that we appreciate everything that you do to try and make these things go as streamlined as possible, especially since I know you do it by yourself. I'm sorry to those who lost their accounts in a purge due to the confusion.

    Next time we'll all be better prepared for it.

    Thank you again for everything that you do, Squeaky. I still recommend keeping the paypal button up so we can donate to you because buying paid time/permanents are our investment and the site needs the funds for upkeep. Thank you for looking into other ways of backing up the site too after the recent outage.
  • Thank you for the clarification!

    In the future, if you delete an email account without transferring the ownership of the journals from one email to another, is there a way we can open a ticket to get a list of what accounts belong to that deleted email address with some sort of identity verification?

    Thank you!
  • (Anonymous)
    thank you for your explanation, but honestly.. you are allowed to do as you see appropriate. people had plenty of time. i had journals that i let go in the purge and i'm more than okay with that because i figured, if i hadn't used them in two years, then i didn't need them. i received emails for all of those journals not once, but twice, that they would be purged. this gave me two opportunities to be notified that i might lose journals. minus a week of ij being down, i had almost a month to reclaim journals. unpopular opinion, i'm sure: if the content of the journal was that important, then it should have been saved. the time was there. don't blame an early purge of four days on the fact that you messed up. and honestly, i'm glad the purge wasn't announced. because a lot of people claim journals just to sit on them or sell them. maybe people got the ones they wanted and will actually use them. also! it's easy to know when a journal has been deleted. you can be notified. keep doing you, squeaky!
  • Well, thank you for the explanation, however I'm still very disappointed since you had said the purge would be 3/25 here. I understand that there's nothing that can bring them back, but it's extremely disheartening since I had planned for the 25th and have now lost content as well as journal names I can't afford to replace.
    • you had 19 days total to recover the accounts and they are accounts that you hadn't logged in to for over 2 years, if you needed to wait until 11:59pm on march 24th that's not squeaky's problem
      • They weren't saying that though? People are just expressing understandable upset that they were banking on X date (regardless of what their intentions were), only to be blindsided because it wasn't the case without notice because of an also understandable communication error, and I'm saying that as someone who saved all of my stuff early immediately in one go, so I'm not speaking out of personal feeling myself or anything.
    • This. Honestly, I would pay you to get my info back somehow, Sqeaky. That's how important it is to me.
      • For what it's worth, if some of your journals were set so that robot could index them, you may be able to recover some content via archive.org. I've had luck finding other people's stuff ranging from just whatever was on on their journal, to some or all of the entries with comments as well.
        • Yeah, I managed to find some journal entries and such. My main problem is that I failed to back up my character applications, and those I always friends locked so they weren't archived.
    • You are right I did say that. I apologize for the incorrect information.
      • When I was setting this up, I know I said I would do it on a Saturday, I could not find the original post and my recollection of this conversation was wrong. I know it's not much of an excuse but I was working on this while very exhausted from all the work I had to put into getting the site back online. If I would have communicated this better, we wouldn't be in this situation, so I take 100% blame for this.
        • Thanks. For what it's worth, I do really appreciate everything you do for this site and especially lately with the crash. And I get that the crash did mess everything up, and with any luck an interrupted purge won't be a situation that ever happens again.
  • (Anonymous)
    captchas aren't working for creating new accounts?
    • This is fixed. Sorry the error was related to securing logins and passwords.
  • I have not been on the net as long as some people, but an early lesson I learned the hard way is that not everything online is permanent, and things can come and go in an instant with no warning. This applies to photos, writings, whole websites, layouts, music and just everything. If I see something I like, I save it to my hard drive, and I post it in at least two separate places on two separate sites, usually more. Even if you are just composing an involved comment or a short story, you might want to start on something like Notepad or Semagic and then transfer to your sites so some glitch doesn't delete what you have written. Those of you here at IJ who have not backed up your stuff can easily import it to DW if you desire. That way you have a copy if you ever need it.

    Thank you for IJ Squeaky, and thank you to whomever gifted me with my rename token. <3
  • Nothing to do with the purge but I'm still getting pop ups saying this form is not secure whenever I try to log out or search for someone's ui. I'm using safari if that makes a difference.
    • This is a push from the companies who make the browsers. We have secured the site in preparation for this. Unfortunately some errors are still showing. please understand that your logins on this site are secure.
  • Purge

    Thank you for notifying us! I am grateful for all you guys do and would be devastated to have my journal purged.
  • any update on why userpics are randomly breaking? i uploaded mine two weeks ago. they were fine as recently as yesterday. i signed in today and three of them are broken. my friend had the same thing happen, but with six of them.
  • While we understand the sentiments some of you are saying, lets still keep it civil here. Some people are legimitaly hurting due to lost content that they planned to save, but hadn't done it yet. They thought they had more time and didn't. Mocking them here isn't going to make them feel any better.
  • You do a great job, and thank you for the apology anyway, it says a lot about your character.

    I have a question, however. If we come across a community where the only maintainer was purged, and it hasn't been updated in 7 years, is there any way to request that asylum un? Perhaps through a ticket? Or will it be deleted/purged at sometime in the future? Thanks!
  • Squeaky, correct me if I'm wrong, but once any user heard about the purge that was planned or received an email notification specifically about their account being part of the purge, all they had to do was log into that account once and it would be saved from the purge, right?
    • Anytime before the purge itself, just logging into that account would save it from being earmarked for deletion. But once you get an email notification specifically about an account being deleted/part of the purge, then you have to log in, go to the account status page, and manually flip it from "Deleted" to "Activated" in order to spare it from the permanent deletion.
  • I logged into accounts I wanted to save before the rollback, and it looks like they were saved, but I only knew about the purge because I happened to log into accounts I use more frequently and noticed my other accounts that members of the same comms were showing as deleted. I never received an email notifying me of a purge. I know I am not the only one who never got an email. I use only one email address for all of my IJ accounts. I've never changed it. I'm getting notifs for comments. So I have no idea why I wouldn't have gotten an email about the purge.

    I appreciate all you go for us, squeaky, but there were multiple levels
  • Thank you.

    Subject ^

    Since you probably don't hear it enough.
  • My problem is that I DID go in and activate some of my accounts that were set to be deleted and yet they were deleted anyway. Is there anyway to get these back?
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